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Furn_Darkside
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Umbran said:
Dude, I got two words for you: Bill Gates.
When geeks inherit the Earth, it isn't pretty.
Well, I am of the odd minority that does not hate corporations and/or Microsoft.
MS seems offly purty to me.
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Alaric_Prympax
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IIRC Glamdring and Orcrist, the 2 swords found in the Troll hoard in The Hobbit along with Sting, glowed in the book (The Hobbit). After the Battle of Five Armies and Thorin's death, the dwarves buried Orcrist with Thorin or Thranduil did:
The Hobbit US ppb page 290:
"Upon his tomb the Elvevking then laid Orcrist, the elvish sword that had been taken from Thorin in captivity. It is said in songs that it gleamed ever in the dark if foes approached, and the fortress of the dwarves could not be taken by surprise."
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The Hobbit US ppb page 65:
"He took out his sword again, and again it flashed in the dark by itself. It burned with a rage that made it gleam if goblins were about; now it was bright blue flame for delight in the killing of the great lord of the cave."
continuing on page 66:
"They came scurrying round the corner in full cry, and found Goblin-cleaver and Foe-hammer shining cold and bright in their astonished eyes."
For the above two quotes I will say that Gandalf had used his "wand" to create light so it's possible that is what cause the swords to "shine".
From the FotR US ppb page 392:
"The Balrog reached the bridge. Gandalf stood in the middle of the span, leaning on the staff in his left hand, but in his other hand Glamdring gleamed, cold and white."
A little further down on the same page:
"Glamdring glittered white in answer."
Now that could just be light that is reflected off of Glamdring but I always read that it was coming from it. Especially with the Balrog because the light coming from it was red so Glamdring would have reflected red light not white.
I've always thought that Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting glowed in the presence of goblins and orcs. If I were DMing a ME campaign I would extend it to hobgoblins too in the least; if not in fact include all the humaniod races (ei. gnolls, koblods, bugbears, and ogres) but then again that's just me. For game purposes it would be "Dectect Humaniods in a 100' radius" or something like that. I believe that Orcrist's ability would be consideralby more.
The Hobbit US ppb page 290:
"Upon his tomb the Elvevking then laid Orcrist, the elvish sword that had been taken from Thorin in captivity. It is said in songs that it gleamed ever in the dark if foes approached, and the fortress of the dwarves could not be taken by surprise."
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The Hobbit US ppb page 65:
"He took out his sword again, and again it flashed in the dark by itself. It burned with a rage that made it gleam if goblins were about; now it was bright blue flame for delight in the killing of the great lord of the cave."
continuing on page 66:
"They came scurrying round the corner in full cry, and found Goblin-cleaver and Foe-hammer shining cold and bright in their astonished eyes."
For the above two quotes I will say that Gandalf had used his "wand" to create light so it's possible that is what cause the swords to "shine".
From the FotR US ppb page 392:
"The Balrog reached the bridge. Gandalf stood in the middle of the span, leaning on the staff in his left hand, but in his other hand Glamdring gleamed, cold and white."
A little further down on the same page:
"Glamdring glittered white in answer."
Now that could just be light that is reflected off of Glamdring but I always read that it was coming from it. Especially with the Balrog because the light coming from it was red so Glamdring would have reflected red light not white.
I've always thought that Glamdring, Orcrist and Sting glowed in the presence of goblins and orcs. If I were DMing a ME campaign I would extend it to hobgoblins too in the least; if not in fact include all the humaniod races (ei. gnolls, koblods, bugbears, and ogres) but then again that's just me. For game purposes it would be "Dectect Humaniods in a 100' radius" or something like that. I believe that Orcrist's ability would be consideralby more.
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Staffan said:
Considering that Tolkien seems to use the terms "goblins" and "orcs" pretty interchangeably, and by Tolkien's descriptions said critters come in a dazzling array of shapes and sizes, there are a few possibilities:
1) There's really only one species, the apparent physical differences are superficial.
2) There's many species of humanoid, that people in Middle Earth all lump under the terms "goblin" and "orc". Sure, gnoll-like beings are not specifically described in LotR, but that doesn't mean they don't exist in the world. And th original kobold wasn't lizardy, and could well be called a "goblin" by someone who didn't know better.
3)There's only one species (referred to as "orc" or "goblin") but the physical variations among them are great enough that you ought to use different game stats. Small orcs are goblins. Larger orcs are orcs. Uruk-hai are half-orcs. Even smaller orcs use kobold stats. Far northern orcs may use gnoll stats, etc...
orbitalfreak
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Furn_Darkside said:I have to point the petrified trolls out to everyone I see the movie with.
Do you mean Bilbo's tale about them, or are the petrified trolls actually present on-screen?
Furn_Darkside
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orbitalfreak said:
The ones actually present on-screen. It is not like they are hidden. *chuckle*
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RangerWickett
Legend
I seem to recall that, when Bilbo is injured and they're trying to cure him, Strider stops them in the forest to rest for a while. They make camp inside a circle of three giant critters made of stone.
Furn_Darkside
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RangerWickett said:
I thought you left your trolling days behind.
Bilbo..
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