D&D General Differences Between D&D Boards

[Prakriti]

In an alternative take, RPGnet is a site with a liberal outlook that is not particularly friendly to conservatives, while theRPGsite is a place where they will grouse about the SJWs on both ENWorld and RPGnet.

I've never been to theRPGsite, but I'm afraid to post on RPGnet. Every time I go there, I see people getting dragged kicking and screaming out the doors for making seemingly innocent remarks. I get the impression that everyone there is walking on eggshells to avoid offending anyone else, and one little slip-up is enough to get you tossed out the doors.

That said, I do enjoy reading RPGnet every now and then. There are some good threads there on occasion. I'm just afraid to post there myself for fear that I'll get the ol' bum-rush for some strange and wholly unexpected reason.

 

[Zardnaar]

You can make you own D&D board by strapping phb togather.

I prefer Pathfinder for this as its a lot heavier/thicker.

Can use as improvised weapons for 1d4 damage. Speed factor is terrible.

 

[Henry]

Yeah. I have a group with 16 players (who all play at the same time). It's a blast.

 

[Henry]

While, this is not the handle I used back in 3e days, I feel the same way. While you do not post as much as you used to in 3e, it warms my heart abit when I see your name....very fond memories of the endless discussion of D&D at that time.

The job I had back in the days of 3e and 3.5 on this forum lent itself to a LOT of downtime, and a LOT of participation. (plus, no Facebook or Twitter, YouTube, or Twitch, so there were a lot fewer choices to divert people like now). These days, I’m in a much better job, but albeit one with a lot less time on my hands except off-hours, so sadly I’m a lot more “drive-by” than I used to be...

 

[Lem23]

In an alternative take, RPGnet is a site with a liberal outlook that is not particularly friendly to conservatives, while theRPGsite is a place where they will grouse about the SJWs on both ENWorld and RPGnet.

I'd say rpgnet isn't at all friendly to right wing extremists, whereas rpgsite is only friendly to right wing extremists.

 

[Celebrim]

Yeah. I have a group with 16 players (who all play at the same time). It's a blast.

Wow. I think maybe 12 players is the most I've ever seen a GM try to handle at once. Takes a lot of skill to keep that many players entertained.

I'll echo and reinforce what ad_hoc said earlier that how many people you have playing together is probably the biggest determinate on what sort of game you are playing, and indeed has a far bigger impact on determining what an RPG game is than the rules set does.

Playing a game with 1 player, or 2 players, or 3-4 players, or 5-8 players, or 9 or more players means you'll end up with something that is almost an entirely different game. I don't think there is any lesson I've learned in the last 20 years as a GM that is more important than that one.

 

[Celebrim]

I'd say rpgnet isn't at all friendly to right wing extremists, whereas rpgsite is only friendly to right wing extremists.

Everyone believes that anyone who doesn't believe something pretty close to what they do is an extremist. Everyone likewise believes that there own extremism is always well justified.

 

[Morrus]

OK, we're not going to talk about politics, even by proxy when describing other forums.

 

[Eltab]

I think the most people I have played with or DM'ed for was 12 at once. We had three or four chairs on each side of a rectangular table, even the DM was cramped for space (I slid over to a corner). Both times were the week of Spring Break when the regulars brought a friend along to check the game out.

It made the combats s-l-o-w but there was no way the PC horde could lose; just a question of how much damage the guys in front would take (or if something exciting would happen like being pushed off a bridge) before the enemies became pincushions of the arcane & mundane, from all the PCs in the back.

 

[Bitbrain]

I used to frequent Giant in the Playground, until I got my current iPad and it decided GitP was not a safe website. I liked GitP for the discussions on gameplay mechanics, and the World Building subforum was always fun*.

I like RPG.net for the Let’s Read threads. Oh, and the Returned Maztica thread, that guy is brilliant.

Reddit is... not my cup of tea. Every interaction I ever had was negative, so I just stopped going there.

I know my dad likes RPG Stack Exchange. Never been there myself.


*my favorite homebrew setting the GitP community worked on was easily Toxic Sky (?), where people lived on and inside mountains and used airships to travel because below a certain altitude the air was poison gas. Unique and very cool.

 

[Legatus Legionis]

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[Lanefan]

Pretty much the only other one I ever look at is Dragonsfoot, mostly because they've got some very good (and free!) resources there for old-school games: adventure modules, articles, character sheets and other forms, etc.

I check out the actual discussion forums there maybe once or twice a year.

In the past I might have signed up for a few other boards but I've no idea what my log-in info was anymore.

(Oh, and Reddit is mostly fan art of the "My friend got bored in math class and drew my D&D character!" variety.)

This makes me want to check out Reddit, then, as I'm on the hunt for character art these days.

 

[Zardnaar]

Reddits good for some things.

 

[Mistwell]

I'd say rpgnet isn't at all friendly to right wing extremists, whereas rpgsite is only friendly to right wing extremists.

I cannot speak much to RPGnet but I can to TheRPGsite and I can with 100% certainty that it's a place for anyone, provided they can deal with people with strong attitudes. Which can be tiresome after a while, but is sometimes worth it for the interesting views and deep knowledge of some posters.

There are plenty of people of all ideologies there. It might tilt a bit one way or the other, but you will find the entire spectrum of beliefs. I think people outside the board think it's about one thing because the owner of the board is a loudmouth who is about one thing. But, if you look at the opinions on that board, few of the users there actually agree with the owner. And they will tell him that, in colorful ways, without fear of being kicked out.

But there is almost no moderation, aside from making sure it ties back to RPGs. So people say whatever they want to say, within some broad limits. And some loudmouths say a lot of stuff about "SJWs [whatever]". And some people push back on that stuff and disagree with them loudly. There is no uniformity of beliefs.

But I'd say it's not what I'd describe as "friendly" necessarily to anyone, but it's "as welcoming" to any ideology. If you want to go in there and spout off about communism and D&D, they will treat you exactly as nice or mean as if you're spouting off about any other ideology. Which is to say someone, probably several someones, will call you a fool and worse. And some others will agree with you. And a lot of people will roll their eyes at you. And probably someone will tell you you're not left enough and start talking about anarco-communist collectives and D&D.

But if you just spout off about ideology without some link to RPGs, then that's when the moderators will tell you to knock it off.

It's basically the Mos Eisley bar, with unwelcomed driods being the people who want to talk politics without a connection to RPGs. Lots of people wanted for the death penalty in 12 systems (or in this case banned from half a dozen other RPG message boards). Arms being sabered-off and people being blasted at the tables, followed by the band resuming playing after a very brief pause.

 

[Zardnaar]

I cannot speak much to RPGnet but I can to TheRPGsite and I can with 100% certainty that it's a place for anyone, provided they can deal with people with strong attitudes. Which can be tiresome after a while, but is sometimes worth it for the interesting views and deep knowledge of some posters.

There are plenty of people of all ideologies there. It might tilt a bit one way or the other, but you will find the entire spectrum of beliefs. I think people outside the board think it's about one thing because the owner of the board is a loudmouth who is about one thing. But, if you look at the opinions on that board, few of the users there actually agree with the owner. And they will tell him that, in colorful ways, without fear of being kicked out.

But there is almost no moderation, aside from making sure it ties back to RPGs. So people say whatever they want to say, within some broad limits. And some loudmouths say a lot of stuff about "SJWs [whatever]". And some people push back on that stuff and disagree with them loudly. There is no uniformity of beliefs.

But I'd say it's not what I'd describe as "friendly" necessarily to anyone, but it's "as welcoming" to any ideology. If you want to go in there and spout off about communism and D&D, they will treat you exactly as nice or mean as if you're spouting off about any other ideology. Which is to say someone, probably several someones, will call you a fool and worse. And some others will agree with you. And a lot of people will roll their eyes at you. And probably someone will tell you you're not left enough and start talking about anarco-communist collectives and D&D.

But if you just spout off about ideology without some link to RPGs, then that's when the moderators will tell you to knock it off.

It's basically the Mos Eisley bar, with unwelcomed driods being the people who want to talk politics without a connection to RPGs. Lots of people wanted for the death penalty in 12 systems (or in this case banned from half a dozen other RPG message boards). Arms being sabered-off and people being blasted at the tables, followed by the band resuming playing after a very brief pause.

Sounds like another forum I know of (not D&D related).

It's not quite anything goes but most topics are fine. You're gonna get called a fascist/communist/socialist etc though. You have to be polite though.

 

[Kurotowa]

I visit three forums for D&D discussion, each of which has its own focus and culture. Here on enWorld I get concentrated D&D fandom, with a deep knowledge of the traditions and lore of the hobby. Over on reddit's dndnext I find what feels to be a lot of newer and younger players, with a heavy investment in 5e and the newest releases. Going to RPGnet I expect to find an emphasis on narrative creativity over rules discussions, and a lot of people bringing up third party releases or older editions.

Each of them has a different focus. Each of them has its own rules and forum culture to be respected. I find getting a diversity of perspectives and opinions to be healthy for my mental clarity.

 

[Bacon Bits]

First, the search feature on every single forum ever is absolutely awful. When a topic fades from being current on any board, you should assume it's gone forever. Google might help, but it probably won't. The Internet is a big black hole.

ENWorld -- If I were to describe it to someone who hasn't used it, I'd say it's a place where DMs and homebrewers talk about things. Moderation is relatively good, but like a lot of boards tends to allow topics to go just a bit longer than they should. Has too many posters who confuse discussion with arguments so they just argue in circles, resulting in every thread being functionally worthless after ~100 posts because a few posters arguing about an often tangential and irrelevant point monopolize the thread activity. Recommended, but you should avoid long threads unless you like to smash your face into a wall. Also good for hobby-wide or industry-wide news.

GitP -- There's a strong character optimization monoculture left over from a large 3.5 charop and 4e charop community, but if you can accept that then they can be good. I really enjoyed my time here during the D&D Next playtest, but I left for about a year and everybody I knew seems to be gone after the boards were reorganized to merge 5e stuff in. There was a lot of edition warring, but I think we were all still working through why 4e did or didn't work for our tables. At one point they had some amazing in-character boards and play-by-post stuff, but I haven't been there in a very long time and I would be surprised if it's still that good or that popular since the rise of VTTs.

RPG.net -- I've had really good and really poor experiences here. Moderation is hit and miss to extremes, IMX, but different topic subboards feel very different. I avoid it because I feel like I'm just going to get in trouble. I feel like I'm supposed to agree with the politics, and even though I think I generally do, I don't feel welcome there because I feel like I'm being policed? That's all really. The site makes me feel unwelcome so I don't go back.

D&D Beyond Forums -- No real culture here that I can tell. Almost everyone posting is a newbie asking pretty basic questions. None of the boards that interested me had any interesting topics. Moderation seemed fine, but it's hard not to be when the volume is that low.

RPG StackExchange -- Highly strict moderation; worse than most Stack Overflow sites, IMX, and I've got about 24k on StackOverflow itself so I use other SE sites a lot. This site practices dogmatic worship of RAW. Want to post? Better have chapter and verse at hand. A very significant number of posts seem to be rules lawyer-y in nature. Most other questions are some form of, "Can you read the rulebook back to me?" which just doesn't feel useful or fun. Useful when you want a strict RAW answer, but otherwise it should be avoided. Not very welcoming.

Twitter -- Worthless for discussion. Nice that Crawford sometimes responds. Much worse now that Mearls doesn't post, as I felt like the two together are what made 5e work well. Crawford is very much just interested in reading the book back to you. I understand why that is, but it's not useful or interesting to me because I'm going to take that same information and do what I want anyways.

Reddit -- There's several boards, but in general it's pretty good if you can put up with everything that sucks about Reddit. The fact that topics fall off the top so fast is great for new topics, but it makes long form discussion basically impossible. ENWorld makes long form discussion too easy; Reddit makes it too difficult. Every subreddit has it's own culture, some good and some bad. There's a ton of often needless posting just for karma, especially image posts, and while it's sometimes cool it gets old fast. The bigger the sub, the more low-effort image posts there are. There's also a lot of groupthink, and the upvote/downvote system encourages toeing the line.

• /r/dndnext, /r/dnd -- I find these basically indistinguishable. A lot of new players making the same mistakes that all new players make. A lot of intermediate players making the same mistakes that all intermediate players make. A lot of D&D streaming fans who mistake their favorite streamer's style as the One True Style. Way, way too much art, maps, commissions, photographs, etc. Sure, it's cool that people do that, but I don't want that to be 90% of the content and it kind of is. I don't need performative social media hobbying. A lot of players and DMs who are less experienced than I am and are stuck in modes of thinking that I've moved past.
• /r/DungeonsAndDragons -- Crossposts of all the image posts from /r/dnd and /r/dndnext. Skip it.
• /r/rpg -- A more diverse community than /r/dndnext and /r/dnd. Still a lot of art posts. Some posters are anti-D&D because D&D is D&D, probably from players who have finally tried something other than D&D. The good posts are a little sparse, but they're definitely there. Worth checking out. Along with ENWorld is good for hobby-wide or industry-wide news.
• /r/DMAcademy -- This has the most interesting topics, IMX, but it's a bit small. Some homebrew content that I find useless, but overall pretty good. Recommended.
• /r/DnDBehindTheScreen -- Not quite as good as /r/DMAcademy, but decent.
• /r/mattcoleville -- Like a mix of /r/DMAcademy and /r/rpg. The good parts are really good. Recommended.
• /r/UnearthedArcana -- A good resource, but most topics are "look at this thing I made" which doesn't make for great discussion. Community seems great, but it's not offering something I'm looking for.
• /r/Homebrewery -- Very useful resource for the The Homebrewery - NaturalCrit site, which is great for making your homebrew look like 5e.
• /r/AdventureLookup -- Useful resource for the https://www.adventurelookup.com/adventures/ site. Pretty dead now that the site works well, but at one time it was really useful.
• /r/3d6 -- A charop board. Surprisingly low volume, and the posts aren't very interesting. A seemingly endless number of "How do I make a Sorlock with these stats" posts. Not enough volume to maintain my interest.
• /r/adnd -- For people actually running 1e/2e stuff, without as much politicizing as other boards. Good stuff if it's what you're doing.
• /r/osr -- Eh. Personally I found sitting down and reading through the Principia Apocrypha more enlightening and interesting than anything I've read here. Seems to be a lot of posts that are about why OSR is good, and not so much on just playing the game. Someone else said it, but it definitely feels like people are a little elitist.

Min/Max Boards -- I remember these being great like back in the 3e era, but looking just now they're completely dead. RIP.

I've never gotten in to any Discords or Discourses. Just hasn't interested me enough, so I can't comment on them at all.

 

[Azzy]

Yeah. I have a group with 16 players (who all play at the same time). It's a blast.

I would pull my hair out. My max is six players (not counting the DM), and I much prefer 4.

 

[Mercurius]

In the distant past I used to come here for D&D talk and the Purple Place for other RPGs. But over the years I have found the latter to involve extremely authoritarian moderation (dare I say, Orwellian), and it isn't just along (political) party lines. It is more ideological: if you don't agree and speak according to their rather narrow ideological framework, you'll booted (ahem).

RPGSite is like the Wild West comparatively, generally very open to all viewpoints, as far as I can tell in my limited time on the site. You might get crap, but you won't get booted for Wrongthink.

 

[S'mon]

In the distant past I used to come here for D&D talk and the Purple Place for other RPGs. But over the years I have found the latter to involve extremely authoritarian moderation (dare I say, Orwellian), and it isn't just along (political) party lines. It is more ideological: if you don't agree and speak according to their rather narrow ideological framework, you'll booted (ahem).

I once got sanctioned on RPGnet for 'disrespecting veterans of the Vietnam War', which you might think was a right-wing position for them to take. While they have a strong political stance, the moderation there is much more focused on Total Control of speech - it's literally Totalitarian. I've occasionally had weird Mod warnings/threadbans here too in recent years, but I don't think it's at the same level.