Diplomatic Immunity OOC: The Next Thread

[Bront]

Wow, I think that's the first time Vasha's gotten mad.

No, she has before, she just has been trying to be patient, but it doesn't seem to get through to these thick headed Valsians.

 

[Rystil Arden]

No, she has before, she just has been trying to be patient, but it doesn't seem to get through to these thick headed Valsians.

They're stubborn, just like Marrik, and really like Vasha is too. Vasha doesn't give up when it comes to bringing joy to those around her--it's her Valsian stubbornness

 

[Bront]

They're stubborn, just like Marrik, and really like Vasha is too. Vasha doesn't give up when it comes to bringing joy to those around her--it's her Valsian stubbornness

Well, I'm glad I'm doing your nymphs proud.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Well, I'm glad I'm doing your nymphs proud.

You mean Nymph/Valsians

 

[Bront]

You mean Nymph/Valsians

That too

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

RA: [sblock]Honesty its not what I really want, its what I think is probably best. Neither one of us is having enough fun consistently for it to be worthwhile. As for D&D, besides M&M character creation it’s the perfect system for me.

I don’t mean this to be a slam against you but pretty much all my other games die from a lack of posting from other players or GM/DM updates and rare because of anything else but we’re not finding any middle ground (Though I’m sure you’ll say you’re the DM there is no middle ground) and that does frustrate me…

From the way you seem to portray me were you surprised that I handled Wei-Han’s betrayal so well? I will admit I’m not sure what I was to do with Molpe now, I was quite glad to see the class/extended break happen, and I was going to PM Keia to see if Zyk would basically watch after her…

Cause I said before in email to you, I cannot see many reasons for Molpe to get on a Spelljamming vessel and explore the world… and certainly couldn’t think of one after the betrayal… Its just too scary and even a nymph would see the need to go home and protect her young. (and as you pointed out before she was really young and had a lifetime to explore the sphere so why now? )

RA, truthfully, the last thing I want to do is leave this game… (or any game and especially any of your games) but I don’t see how we can solve this. Do you?

I mean, most, if not all of our issues have come from minor things like a character's background. Minor as in they have no real affect in the game as they are in the past but just like real people backgrounds shape people's lives, beliefs, and actions so they cannot be dismissed.

RA, when you introduce stuff like:

• post 613 (they were mantouched (many times) and had no honor anyways)
• post 615 (This is really a bad one, in a previous post Kalli said Lavinia wasn’t a real battle sisters [which went uncorrected even when I defined it] Also Lavinia added serious Conacian Beliefs for me to have to deal with. That and she’s offering an easy way out for recovering honor [which should be all but impossible for such major offenses.] )

It (the above) causes me to think that my character hasn’t behaved right in the past, that I’m playing my own character wrong, and as someone else so elegantly noticed I feel like I’m losing control of my character.

Nothing from my character’s present or what will happen in the future will bother me as all of that is accounted for while in the game… It’s the stuff from there history that should have been accounted for since post 1 that will bother me.

I think the big reason this is happening is that there is very little written about Corcoran Amazons. I know there based upon the Greek myth but, RA, I’m not that interested in Greek Myth so reading those myths to have some semblance of an idea of who/what they are isn’t going to be easy on me. Now, get upset or frustrated I’m not asking you to write a big essay on them but I would like it if you would realize that I’ve been thinking about this character for months now, and rather you like it or not (I don’t mean that to be harsh but I’m not sure what others words to use) I have a very strong idea of what I think Kalli is like, but also how she use to live before her struggles. [This includes her tribe.]

I haven’t tried to do anything major that would mess up your games history, I’ve not said the Corcorans hate men because of this, this and that. Instead I left that very much alone and gave Kalli her own reasons to hate men…

You’re a wonderful GM, RA, and I wouldn’t begin to think I could do this better than you or even give you lessons but considering Kalli’s tribe isn’t even named (no tie into any tribe you’ve created [that I at least know of]), that Kalli can never go back to that life (at least not without alot of luck and/or divine inspiration), and it is all complete and utter history is it really wrong for the player to make his character’s tribal beliefs no matter how backwards they are? [/sblock]

 

[Rystil Arden]

BS:
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RA, when you introduce stuff like:
post 613 (they were mantouched (many times) and had no honor anyways)
post 615 (This is really a bad one, in a previous post Kalli said Lavinia wasn’t a real battle sisters [which went uncorrected even when I defined it] Also Lavinia added serious Conacian Beliefs for me to have to deal with. That and she’s offering an easy way out for recovering honor [which should be all but impossible for such major offenses.] )

They had honour in death. It isn't an easy way out for Kalli (particularly since a death from suicide is not honourable).
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[Brother Shatterstone]

Rystil Arden: [SBLOCK]

They had honour in death. It isn't an easy way out for Kalli (particularly since a death from suicide is not honourable).

Then Kalli should be happy, rejoice even, for she has restored her sisters’ honor and after one short story all will be good for them.

So why did she cry in the prologue when she talked about them? Why did she cry again to Catullus in this thread? Why did she need to hold back tears in front of Lavinia? Why did she tell Lavinia that it wasn’t a horrible thing, her sisters had honor again and she would do it again?

Those two posts invalidated all of that… It’s not like Lavinia is an older/elder Amazon who can show Kalli the truth she’s just someone who did some studying in order to know Kalli better. Surely Kalli would know more about her own culture than Lavinia would, right?

Did you see where I am coming from now, RA? [/sblock]

 

[Rystil Arden]

[SBLOCK=BS]

Then Kalli should be happy, rejoice even, for she has restored her sisters’ honor and after one short story all will be good for them.

So why did she cry in the prologue when she talked about them? Why did she cry again to Catullus in this thread? Why did she need to hold back tears in front of Lavinia? Why did she tell Lavinia that it wasn’t a horrible thing, her sisters had honor again and she would do it again?

Because Lavinia isn't quite correct, of course. She isn't a sufficient arbiter.

They won't be restored until the original tribe hears of their noble deaths, and that won't happen because they won't accept Kalli back--to restore their honours, Kalli must first restore hers.
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[Brother Shatterstone]

RA: [sblock]Anyhow, I really do need to go get some sleep... so I guess this will remain unresolved for now.

I hate to sound rude but do you plan on addressing the rest of post # 658? [/sblock]