Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes OOC II

[The_Universe]

Just saw it and printed it Are all the walls thorn walls or are the internal ones regular wood gates??

Good question, Gerti!!

If they are in the forest though it gives us some protection/cover from the dragons and wyverns while attacking them. Maybe.... nope nothing there...

The internal gates are walls of thorns, as are the outer gates.

 

[Laurel]

Also... a measure that we can take to strengthen our forces is to take out the draconids evil horn of death before it's terror reaches the ears of those fighting on our side.
Don't need our archers peeing their pants.

Tee-hee or Arhconus becoming smelly again... oh wait I have an even worse save!

I could be in error here, but wasn't the huge horn Syvattagor's? So we could smash it while we are here make sure no one can take it from his body.

Or when we do the rear attack, have someone (Xath) be syvattagor and blow the horn on the approach... make it seem like he is just arriving with more troops (black orc are known to be evil) there to fight. Once on top of the army attack!
Picture battle from braveheart only in reverse. "I told ye it was me isle" -the crazy, funny irish guy from braveheart.

 

[AIM-54]

I'm not evil, really.

Alternatively, we could take advantage of the obstacle that the elves themselves present to the invaders. While it will of course not take long for the draconids to overrun them, it will take some effort and there will be some confusion as they make their run to the walls. That gives us some extra time to fire into the bad guys, sow further confusion with the strike to the rear and any other tricks we come up with. The more time we have to hit them without them being completely organized or coming up the walls, the better. While it does abandon the elves to their fate for the most part, I think our resources are better massed for the real battle than to save some elves that may never be truly functional again. Cruel, perhaps, but if we lose it doesn't matter how many elves we may have saved.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

If Syvattagor had the horn, we don't need to worry about it. But, if he didn't we need to destroy it or even some of us are going to be running away with wet spots around our bums.

 

[The_Universe]

You have the horn.

If you want to know more, you'll have to spend the magic to find out.

 

[Laurel]

Alternatively, we could take advantage of the obstacle that the elves themselves present to the invaders. While it will of course not take long for the draconids to overrun them, it will take some effort and there will be some confusion as they make their run to the walls. That gives us some extra time to fire into the bad guys, sow further confusion with the strike to the rear and any other tricks we come up with. The more time we have to hit them without them being completely organized or coming up the walls, the better. While it does abandon the elves to their fate for the most part, I think our resources are better massed for the real battle than to save some elves that may never be truly functional again. Cruel, perhaps, but if we lose it doesn't matter how many elves we may have saved.

Not a bad idea- Just thousands of dead elf bodies does make an easy way to get an incline up a wall.... but that could be delt with by setting fire to them or some such, since we also do want them to die just to be raised right there....

 

[The_Universe]

Not a bad idea- Just thousands of dead elf bodies does make an easy way to get an incline up a wall.... but that could be delt with by setting fire to them or some such, since we also do want them to die just to be raised right there....

Cripes this is getting grim.

Letting them die and then torching them as they lay piled against your wooden wall may not be a good idea, for both structural and morale reasons. If you're not going to let them in the walls (or at least make an attempt), I suggest you do whatever you're going to do well out of sight from New Oceanus and Hyrwl. *shudder.*

 

[Archon]

At What Cost?

or....we "Troy" it. we put our infantry outside the walls with us and "filter" out the fleeing elves as they approach. we keep our spellslingers and archers on the wall to do as much damage as possible to their main force while we take their vanguard head on.
mik aka "micky"

 

[AIM-54]

Not a bad idea- Just thousands of dead elf bodies does make an easy way to get an incline up a wall.... but that could be delt with by setting fire to them or some such, since we also do want them to die just to be raised right there....

I have doubts that they'll die that conveniently. Once they've sorta been let loose, they are likely to spread out somewhat and it's unlikely that, at that point, the draconids will be that interested in what happens to some of those elves, especially if we give them some other things to worry about, which is certainly the case. Also by hitting them at range (cannons, arrows, magic), we'll be able to further degrade their ability to really control the stampeding elves. Heck, if we give some of them the time and opportunity to run past Hywrl/New Oceanus, we may be able to save more of them than any other of our plans (save the resource draining, get them from the pens, ones).
The plan would also to keep them busy with other things so that they don't have time or inclination to start raising dead elves. Hell, if they really wanted to do that, they'd just slaughter them and raise them beforehand. Much more efficient that way.

 

[AIM-54]

or....we "Troy" it. we put our infantry outside the walls with us and "filter" out the fleeing elves as they approach. we keep our spellslingers and archers on the wall to do as much damage as possible to their main force while we take their vanguard head on.
mik aka "micky"

We'd get slaughtered real quick that way. Our infantry is mostly relatively new recruits. We only have around 800 regulars with real training and experience. They'll be much more effective from the walls. We could take some of the regulars and set up an attack from the flank to hopefully put some space between the draconids and the elves, but I think splitting our Hyrwl forces like that only makes us less effective where we need to be most effective. Numbers and quality are not to our advantage.