[Discussion] Lost Love OOC

Velmont

Visitor
I see there have been a lot of OOC discussion lately, with good reason, but then, it cut a bit the flow of the story, so let's talk here. Among other things, twilsemail want to talk about his new character or the ressurection of Pis.
 

twilsemail

Visitor
Alright, first things first. Is the party going to drag Pis to a temple and have him raised or am I rolling a new PC? I mostly leave this up to the other players.

If I'm rolling up a new PC, what would we be looking for?

There are a few things to consider when adding a PC, which everyone here prolly already knows.
1. Party role: We're shy a controller. Alternately, a melee striker is still very complimentary to what the party might want.
2. Skills: We've got no one with an Arcana, History or Religion higher than a 2. An Int based character might rectify that. Several Charisma based skills are also surprisingly low.

I can probably build a decent sheet and have a character that lives in that sheet somewhere by the start of the weekend if everyone wants to go that route.
 

evilbob

Visitor
Alright, I'll bite. So first off, I just want to say that even in hindsight I think we all acted extremely well and I think we did an amazing job this encounter - certainly the very best we could have done. I mean, from Talkrai's awesome move that was rather ingenious to save Jasper, to Ryda's double crits in two rounds, to Jarren's brilliant lock-down of the gnome, to Pis' amazing stunt that neeeearly worked (and frankly, had the best odds of anything we've done so far!), to 16 actually hitting 3 out of 4 times in one round, I'd say we did everything we could have possibly done - especially given the vicious blood vendetta these guys apparently had against our party member for some reason. To paraphrase Baseketball, apparently god just had it in for little Pis. :)

So going forward, in my mind it's ultimately up to twilsemail whether or not he wants us to raise Pis or if he wants to go with a different character. I know what my character is going to do, but that doesn't reflect my opinion - frankly it's not my call nor should it be. So twils, what do you think?
 

evilbob

Visitor
Ha - posted on top of you. Man it takes me forever to write stuff!

My only advice is to completely not worry about what the party needs. Play the character YOU want to play; please don't feel forced into a role at all. Our group will do just fine no matter what you want to play, I promise.
 

renau1g

Visitor
If you guys want to check out a desperate situation, see how Murphy Tang and co. are doing over in L4W.

http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/273442-adventure-darkest-night-dm-johnmeier1-judge-ozymandias79-27.html

I see a TPK in our future.

re: raising, I'm sure that Susan will try to raise Pis, but of course, like you said, it's up to twilsemail.

re: playing what you want to play. I can't recommend this enough. I love Kane and Murphy (despite his impending death) over in L4W, but I'm less crazy about Vok here, as I mostly created him because we had a defender shortage here, but I likely will retire him after this adventure.
 

twilsemail

Visitor
I've got upwards of 97 trillion character ideas running through my head at any one time. I'm probably up for playing anything. The reason I picked striker for my first PC here is the simple fact that I never play them at the table.

I spoke to LadyLaw before rolling up Din and she gave me some solid advice that hinged around the fact that I had no idea what party I was going to end up in so I should really roll whatever I wanted. That's no longer the case. I've got an awesome party I'd love to RP with. If there's a character I can build that'll compliment them, I'm all for it.

I play leaders all of the time at the table, so I'd rather avoid that. Luckily, we've already got two of them (and I still may bring in a Warlord for my second PC in a few months).

I could see a Wizard or Psion working fantastically with what the party doesn't have. Perhaps a Sivis Gnome heard about this language riddle through the grapevine?



On resurrection: I really am good either way. I'd rather it was a party decision. RP it out. If Pis is buried, I'm alright with that. If Pis rises from the grave to stalk again, I'm alright with that.

Maybe he gets up as a Revenant?
 

Velmont

Visitor
I just want to give a few comment on the story up to now:

1) I love the roleplay. You all have a good defined characters. I like that paranoia you had at start.

2) You have done a great job with the wind chamber and start to understand more how that place worked.

3) Jasper is dead, as is Pis. You made decision that have been risky. Jasper would have been saved if Ryda had a better initiative roll (the odd was in favor of Ryda). Pis would be still alive if he had received 1 less hit or even 1 less damage with the AoO. In the end it is IC who has spoiled your plans.

4) I have started to think about a follow up, and make sure to reintroduce twilsemail if he decide to make a new character. Also, I warn you, Ièll pick things from your background.

5) Twilsemail, you should make the character you want to play. If you are undecided between many choice, then start to consider the actual group. You have 2 leader, 1 defender and 1 striker, it is quite well balanced I think like that. Anything would fit in this group I think.
 

Mezegis

Visitor
I second (third, fourth, fifth?) the statement of –Play what you want!- You’re a smart player, you can see what would work well with the group currently in play, but keep in mind that parties in PBP are very fluid. People may rewrite or retire their characters, or people can get burnt out and leave. Heck, some people might have a baby on the way and suddenly not have any spare time left for spending 30 minutes writing up long winded combat/rp actions… Yes we may have 2 Leaders now, but if Jarren and Talkrai get retired and Anti/Lady suddenly decide to play defenders, there goes party dynamics right out the window. The surviving members may just decide to return to the Tavern and give up on this questline, so I wouldn’t try to build anything to suit what may or may not be coming in the future of this adventure.

As far as the potential resurrection of Pis, that will be hashed out ICly, so I can’t really say how that is going to go. I’m kinda curious how the XP is distributed in the case of a PC death, since if Pis would get XP for everything, that may push him to lvl 5 and affect what Twils could make as a potential replacement. Also curious how (if at all) Pis’s stuff would be divided up given the parcel system.
 

Velmont

Visitor
By the way, does anyone mind if I take some inspiration from your character background for the next adventure.
 

LadyLaw

Visitor
Yeah who are those guys? ;)
Besides you? Mez & I, actually, but delivery is a good 6 months off, so I'm hoping all our adventures will be wrapped up by then so we can safely take a short break when the little one arrives.

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As for Pis's resurrection/Twil's new character, I cannot comment. I think there is some serious roleplay that will happen at the end of this encounter that may effect the party's decision on that front.

For one thing, he's suddenly revealed as a changeling, a race highly distrusted in Eberron. For another, some characters may not feel the same about continuing the adventure at this stage as others. As Mez said, there's always the possibility that the group will decide with a dead comrade (potentially 2 if you consider Priam) and a dead employer there is little need to continue.

Should Twil make a new character, I'll stand by my earlier statement that you should play what you want because you don't know what group you'll be with. The thing about PbP is that you don't always stay with the same group or the same DM. I know that if I continue to play Tal when this adventure ends, there will be some serious changes to her attitude, and that could affect her desire to deal with certain types of people. I haven't got it all worked out yet. Like I said, there's going to be a lot of RP closing up this encounter that will decide a lot of things, I'm sure.

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@Vel - Re: taking inspiration from our character backgrounds for your next adventure

You're free to take inspiration from just about anything for writing a new adventure, in my opinion. However, I cannot garauntee that this character will remain in play at the end of this one, or that she might be inclined to take up your next adventure if she does, simply because I think a lot of her goals and opinions might change if she remains in play. I'm not yet sure how I feel about that and continued RP in the current adventure will be a large factor.

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tl;dr:

  • I'm pregnant
  • Rezzing Pis should be determined IC
  • Twil should play what he wants
  • Vel can be inspired by anything
:p

Sorry for long-windedness.
 

Velmont

Visitor
This adventure will continue if you decide to go forward. If not, you'll probably immediately fall in the next one. There won't be any coming back to the Tavern.

I'll need to know who want to go in the next adventure and if they want to switch characters.
 

LadyLaw

Visitor
There will be no immediately falling into the next adventure for me either way. If the decision is made not to continue with this adventure, then it's likely I'll be retiring the character and the new one will have no reason to be involved. If I decide to keep the character anyway, well, we really all should still get the option not to go on your next adventure and return to the tavern regardless of what may make plot sense for you. It's my understanding that that's how PbP works.
 

stonegod

Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
re: playing what you want to play. I can't recommend this enough. I love Kane and Murphy (despite his impending death) over in L4W, but I'm less crazy about Vok here, as I mostly created him because we had a defender shortage here, but I likely will retire him after this adventure.
If I don't kill him first! Going 2-for-2! :devil:

I’m kinda curious how the XP is distributed in the case of a PC death, since if Pis would get XP for everything, that may push him to lvl 5 and affect what Twils could make as a potential replacement. Also curious how (if at all) Pis’s stuff would be divided up given the parcel system.
As per DMG, characters get experience for any encounter they overcome if they were present. Pis was present. He just died. (This is important for retiring or starting a new PC at higher level).

As for loot: While its a bit gamist, anything "taken" from Pis corpse has to fit within one of your PCs parcels. If it can't, then it can't be taken.

Oh, and congrats LL & M!
 

twilsemail

Visitor
Besides you? Mez & I, actually, but delivery is a good 6 months off, so I'm hoping all our adventures will be wrapped up by then so we can safely take a short break when the little one arrives.
Congrats to the both of you! Are yougoing to use a random name generator or look around the room at the time for inspiration?

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I understand the "play what you want" argument and the fluidity of party composition. I can always retire a character and switch them out later if I don't feel like continuing them.
 

Velmont

Visitor
There will be no immediately falling into the next adventure for me either way. If the decision is made not to continue with this adventure, then it's likely I'll be retiring the character and the new one will have no reason to be involved. If I decide to keep the character anyway, well, we really all should still get the option not to go on your next adventure and return to the tavern regardless of what may make plot sense for you. It's my understanding that that's how PbP works.
Sure, you can always come back to the tavern, but things will probably be set that you have motivation to do go forward immediately. No one will be forced to join the adventure.

Also, if you want your new character to continue to play with this group, I'll take the trouble to give you an opportunity to join in quickly that would fit the motivation of your new character. That's something we will have to discuss once you have chosen which character you will play after Lost Love conclusion.

I don't want to force anyone to do anything, at the opposite, I want to offer a chance for all the players to do what they wish, and at the same time, to be able to create a new adventure more interesting and more personal to your characters.
 

Velmont

Visitor
Yeah, congrat Lady and Mez. Are you a couple in real life or it is just a coincidence both your family await a baby?
 

Mezegis

Visitor
Real life, together about 10.5 years, married 5.5, first child. :D

She's actually letting another version of me into the world, muahahaha :devil:
 

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