DS9-Better of the trek shows?

[Ranger REG]

DS9 is the pinnacle of Trek series. TOS is the classic start, TNG followed up by being the "Renaissance" of Trek, and DS9 topped it all by impressive story writing and character development.

After that, the franchise just took a steep dive.

As for the Defiant, I initially didn't like the ship. I was perfectly okay with the runabouts. Eventually I grew to love it.

 

[JimAde]

I've got my asbestos underwear on, so I'm going to say it:

I liked Voyager. Specifically, I liked Janeway. Seven wasn't all that interesting, but Janeway, the Doctor and even Tom Paris were pretty cool characters. And my favorite thing about the show is that they actually got back to Earth at the end. I was very worried they'd get cancelled with little warning and leave them out there indefinitely.

 

[billd91]

I've got my asbestos underwear on, so I'm going to say it:

I liked Voyager. Specifically, I liked Janeway. Seven wasn't all that interesting, but Janeway, the Doctor and even Tom Paris were pretty cool characters. And my favorite thing about the show is that they actually got back to Earth at the end. I was very worried they'd get cancelled with little warning and leave them out there indefinitely.

You don't need to worry about flame protection, but I will say that I didn't like Voyager much. I think they didn't do enough with the implications of being VERY far away from home and I never felt much tension that they'd never get there (unless, of course, the show got cancelled).
I will agree that the Doctor was an interesting character. I'd say he was the most interesting of all of them. Personally, I found Janeway and Paris to be very much uninteresting. But the Doctor we agree on.

 

[The_Universe]

DS9 is the pinnacle of Trek series. TOS is the classic start, TNG followed up by being the "Renaissance" of Trek, and DS9 topped it all by impressive story writing and character development.

After that, the franchise just took a steep dive.

As for the Defiant, I initially didn't like the ship. I was perfectly okay with the runabouts. Eventually I grew to love it.

I would have liked it better if it had been Star Trek: Defiant, rather than Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. I dug the Defiant, because it finally let them *explore,* rather than fester in their own dramatic juices on a border station.

 

[sniffles]

I liked DS9 a lot. I'm not going to try to rank it against the other Trek shows, because I think that does them all a bit of a disservice. If they were similar enough to compare closely, then they wouldn't have needed separate shows.

In general, I think DS9 was well written, had characters with greater depth than seen on most shows - including other Trek, and better execution and use of the cast ensemble than seen in most other places as well.

That's a really excellent way of looking at it, Umbran! I do agree that although I responded with my opinion, it really isn't fair to compare shows (or movies, or books, or RPGs) and try to pick one "best". They all do different things and we like them for different reasons.

 

[Pants]

DS9 is my favorite, for all the reasons stated. The characters had more depth, the cast was good, and the shades of grey were abundant. "In the Pale Moonlight" is still one of my favorite episodes. Sisko and Garak decide to try and trick the Romulans into joining the war against the Dominion. Great episode.

I fully enjoyed every Season of DS9, though seasons 4-6 were my favorite. 7 was good, but felt too rushed at points. Seasons 1 and 2 were a good introduction to the world. 3 wasn't bad either.

As I watch tNG more and more, I feel that the series hit its stride in Season 3 and started cranking out some of the better episodes by Season 4. If Seasons 1 and 2 didn't exist, I really wouldn't care. Those seasons had some really cheesy episodes, TOS cheesy, but with none of the fun interaction between characters (like the vocal sparring between Bones, Spock, and Kirk). When tNG had a good episode, it was usually really good, unfortunately to get to a good episode you'd have to watch a few episodes featuring 'aliens that look exactly like humans.'

VOY was... well, Voyager. It had some good ideas, but it stuck too much to the tNG formula, with too much of a reliance on Time-Travel BS. 'The Year of Hell' Two-Part episode had the potentil to show how truly deserted Voyager was, but then it got turned into a Time-Travel episode. Ugh.

Never really watched ENT.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

Hands down my favorite of all the Trek series. I felt it was the most believeable of the shows, even with the Emmisary stuff, because they often struggled their way to a solution to the episode's conflict, rather than having it just drop into their lap in the last 10 minutes.

While I haven't found the spare cash to plunk down on the DVDs yet, it is the one and only Trek series I am saving up to own.

 

[Mallus]

I dug the Defiant, because it finally let them *explore,* rather than fester in their own dramatic juices on a border station.

See, what you call 'festering in their own dramatic juices' is what I call 'creating a level of dramatic tension previously unknown in the Star Trek universe'.

What's the point in 'boldly going' if you always wind in the same places you've been before? I don't think even a talented pool of writers could keep generating high-quality 'explore the universe/explore a new SF idea' each week. Heck, the original show couldn't do it. And the later shows had an increasingly jaded/experienced audience to contend with

I see DS9 as 'falling back' on tried and true dramatic fundemantals to fuel the show. And I feel it covered far more ground than any of the later Treks, without technically going anywhere.

But to each his own...

 

[Crothian]

I olike DS9 but I'm not a fan of the Dominion and that War. It just didn't seem right, though it did have some intelligent war ideas which most shows fail.

 

[Mallus]

I olike DS9 but I'm not a fan of the Dominion and that War.

Out of curiosity, what didn't you like about the Dominion War?

I thought it was the best thing to happen to the ST universe since Orion slavegirls...