Dragonlance Elmore's 'The Four Women of Dragonlance' Painting Is Finished

Back in February I mentioned that iconic D&D artist Larry Elmore was working on a new 'Women of Dragonlance' painting. Well, it's now finished! And you can buy a print of it!

Larry Elmore · The Four Women Of DragonLance

www.larryelmore.com

 

[Alzrius]

So a trans joke and a race-baiting joke. I think you're lost dear. This isn't /pol/.

I think you clicked "reply" to the wrong post, since all I did was explain the joke, rather than make it.

 

[Fiona]

I think you clicked "reply" to the wrong post, since all I did was explain the joke, rather than make it.

Pretty sure I'm replying the to 'five lights' cat. So yeah, got the right one.

 

[Alzrius]

Pretty sure I'm replying the to 'five lights' cat. So yeah, got the right one.

Not really, no. Let me break this down in a way that you can understand:

The "tokenesta" joke was made by Paul Farquhar over here:

Tokenesta

As for the "five lights" GIF that I posted, that's in no way a trans joke, since there are no trans characters in the picture. There are four female characters and one male character, the latter being the dragon, Skie.

Is that clear, or do I need to make it even simpler?

 

[Fiona]

Not really, no. Let me break this down in a way that you can understand:

The "tokenesta" joke was made by Paul Farquhar over here:


As for the "five lights" GIF that I posted, that's in no way a trans joke, since there are no trans characters in the picture. There are four female characters and one male character, the latter being the dragon, Skie.

Is that clear, or do I need to make it even simpler?

Correct, there are no trans characters in that painting. You simply inferred the possibility of Skie being credited as one so you could roll out the tired Picard 5-Lights meme and make a trasphobic joke . So how about you "simple" your ass back to 4chan with the rest of the incels and stop trying to dog whistle.

 

[Alzrius]

You simply inferred the possibility of Skie being credited as one so you could roll out the tired Picard 5-Lights meme and make a trasphobic joke.

First and most importantly, that meme is in no way tired.

Secondly, pointing out that someone got a character's gender wrong is in no way transphobic. You're seeing what you want to see here, to such a blatant degree that it's pretty clear you're trolling, especially given that you just joined EN World about 20 minutes ago and your posts in this thread are your only contributions (and believe me, I use the term lightly).

Given that you're a troll - most likely some far-right loser running a false-flag operation - I've alerted the mods to what you're doing and put you on ignore, where you belong. That said, thanks for providing the free entertainment in the meantime.

 

[Fiona]

Alzrius​

The EN World kitten​

"First and most importantly, that meme is in no way tired.

Secondly, pointing out that someone got a character's gender wrong is in no way transphobic. You're seeing what you want to see here, to such a blatant degree that it's pretty clear you're trolling, especially given that you just joined EN World about 20 minutes ago and your posts in this thread are your only contributions (and believe me, I use the term lightly).

Given that you're a troll - most likely some far-right loser running a false-flag operation - I've alerted the mods to what you're doing and put you on ignore, where you belong. That said, thanks for providing the free entertainment in the meantime."

Yeah. the meme is tired. VERY tired. Much like the facade of innocence you /pol/sters rely on far too often. I've reported your comment to the mods. And no, I'm not a 'far-righter'. I'm a 42 year old transwoman who signed up only because your attempt to so cleverly disguise your transphobia irked me. But I see you've already resorted to the "I'm-going-spout-a-bunch-of-naughty word-then-block-you-before-you-can-respond-so-I-win" option, I see no point in continuing.

But one last reminder: Your bigotry isn't as well-disguised as you believe it is.

 

[Alzrius]

Much like the facade of innocence you /pol/sters rely on far too often. I've reported your comment to the mods. And no, I'm not a 'far-righter'. I'm a 42 year old transwoman who signed up only because your attempt to so cleverly disguise your transphobia irked me. But I see you've already resorted to the "I'm-going-spout-a-bunch-of-naughty word-then-block-you-before-you-can-respond-so-I-win" option, I see no point in continuing.

You're going to need to tell your all-white alt-right friends that your attempt to "troll a libtard" or whatever coded language you use isn't working. EN World is a diverse and inclusive community, and that's why no one except you called out the supposed "transphobic" joke (and most people reacted positively to it); because they knew it wasn't.

Thing is: you know that too. That's what makes it obvious that you're an anti-trans bigot trying to look like an extremist progressive. Hint: you're doing it badly.

But one last reminder: Your bigotry isn't as well-disguised as you believe it is.

You're projecting again. This is why your trolling is so low-level. Go back and get some tips from your fellow fascists before you make another attempt.

 

[Dausuul]

Edit: Removing comment.

 

[Morrus]

OK, so @Alzrius and @Fiona both of you are repeatedly reporting each other, and then continuing to argue, and then reporting each other again. When you report somebody, please disengage, rather than escalate.

Secondly, I'll be discussing this with the other mods. If that is, in fact, a transphobic meme, then there will be permanent repercussions. I hope it's not, but I am going to ask some of my trans friends, and I will choose to believe them. This is an inclusive community, and there's zero tolerance for that sort of thing.

Even if it turns out it isn't, calling people fascists and bigots is not acceptable here.

In the meantime please, neither of you post in this thread any further. And everybody else, please return to talking about Dragonlance paintings.

 

[Mort]

Same.

In fact, this is the first Elmore I can recall that didn't wow me....

Maybe he's set too high a bar.

Edit - or maybe it's because the women look bored....

Yeah, kind of bored /angry.

I usually really like Elmore's work, but not feeling this one.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Yeah, kind of bored /angry.

I usually really like Elmore's work, but not feeling this one.

There is nothing I like about this picture.

If someone had told me that this was an Elmore rip-off, I'd believe it. Not to criticize someone with far more artistic talent in their pinky than I will ever have, but this just isn't very good. IMO.

 

[Dausuul]

Yeah, kind of bored /angry.

It looks like Laurana is pissed at all the humans, Tika is snapping back at her, Goldmoon is trying to make peace, Kitiara is unimpressed by everyone, and Skie is just waiting for Kitiara to say he can eat Laurana.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

I don't recall her book description, but the depiction is consistent with her hair color in earlier art of his:

I thought Tika was supposed to have flaming red hair?

 

[Dire Bare]

So a trans joke and a race-baiting joke. I think you're lost dear. This isn't /pol/.

Huh?

The "Tokenesta" joke was @Paul Farquhar, not @Alzrius. And it's a joking commentary on tokenism in fantasy, that there aren't a whole lot of black characters in the genre. Marquesta Kar-Thon was one of the few black characters in the Dragonlance stories. @Paul Farquhar's comment was hardly "race-baiting". And I have no idea where you are getting an anti-trans joke from this.

EDIT: Should have clicked to the next page before replying, to enjoy the fireworks. I missed the 5-lights meme @Alzrius posted, and have no idea if it has somehow gained a trans-phobic connotation out there in the wilds of the intertubes. But even if it has, that doesn't mean that was @Alzrius' intent when posting. I've never seen him post anything remotely trans-phobic on these boards before, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit.

 

[Umbran]

Mod Note:
Dire Bare, I can get that you didn't see what had happened. But making it official, time to let that drop.

 

[Rob Kuntz]

I love Elmore's art but really find this one lacking in some sense. Still studying why that's my first impression.

 

[MGibster]

I'm a fan of Elmore but this particular work does nothing for me. They all look like they're standing around bored waiting for the photographer to finish taking a group photo while on vacation at a scenic state park. But that's okay, just because I'm a fan of an artist doesn't mean I have to like everything they do. It's nice to know the fantasy art I grew up with isn't entirely dead.

 

[Rob Kuntz]

OK. It's static bordering on lifeless. They are in the wild but the wild is not in them. The backdrop could have been a sleepy morning bus stop for all of the foregrounded lack of vitality. Love his colors, as usual. But the composition as a whole? Nope. And I really wish it wasn't so.

 

[Stormonu]

Yeah, feel like I'm dumping on it, but I don't really like this painting and I can't think of any of his others that I don't like. A lot of it is Laurana - she looks ticked off, like her top half was pasted to another lower body and she's sitting on a stool. I wonder if he had to change her part-way through the painting by request of the art department, because it looks so out of place.

Kitiara looks at best bored, more like she just did the Han-dodge against a frying pan from Tika.

 

[Mage of Spellford]

I agree, for some reason this painting is flat. That is the only description that I can think about that fits. Especially Skie, it's a shame but if I didn't know better I would have sworn that this would have been one of his earliest works before he became more experienced. Not to be unkind but it seem amateurish somehow.

Tike and Laurana look okay in my opinion but Kitiara just doesn't have the expected aura of power and menace.
Oh, well, this is only my opinion for what it's worth and it doesn't detract from anyone else's enjoyment of the piece.