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English Grammar and Spelling

Yeah, I guess if you already didn't know the song, then the joke about it wasn't likely to be very funny to you.

"Baby Got Back" is a rap song by an artist who goes by the name of Sir Mix-a-Lot. By pretending that I thought he was an actual knight of the realm, I was playing up to stereotypes of dumb and provincial Americans. Because I am one.

In any case, here's Sir Mix-a-Lot in all his glory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybfLRFacF-c
 

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Morrus, here's an introduction to Baby Got Back that's geared toward Englishmen.

If I can use you as an example, however, I think you demonstrate something I said earlier in the thread: communication must consider both the speaker (writer, singer, etc.) AND the listener (reader, audience, etc.). You're probably not Sir Mix-a-lot's intended audience, any more than you're Korpiklaani's intended audience. The fact that you have trouble understanding their lyrics is neither your fault nor their fault: it's just a side effect of the fact that they weren't trying to communicate with you, but with a different audience who would understand.

Another example: I used to give presentations all the time to children about taking care of animals and about what a humane society does. One time, due to a teacher's request, I brought along the director of our animal control department to co-teach the lesson with me.

Now, David was an awesome director of animal control: he was professional, motivated, calm, intelligent, precise, pretty much everything you'd want in an officer. But my lord, that was a painful lesson! He'd tell the six-year-olds something that was completely correct, e.g., "County ordinance forbids residents from permitting their pets from leaving their property unless the animal is properly constrained, and a violation of this ordinance can result in a hundred dollar citation." The kids would gape at him.

When I could do so without being rude, I'd step in: "That's exactly right. You have to keep your dog in your yard or in your house. If you take your dog for a walk, it has to be on a leash. Who can tell me what a leash is? ... Exactly right. If your dog ever runs out of your yard and it isn't on a leash, your parents will have to pay a one-hundred-dollar ticket! So you always want to keep your dog in your yard, in your house, or on a leash."

Was my description technically accurate? Absolutely not. For one thing, I didn't mention cats, emus, horses, or any of the other animals covered by the ordinance; for another thing, I left out the transportation of animals. I'm sure my description was inaccurate in half a dozen other ways as well.

But, despite being flawed in these respects, it considered its audience carefully. It would have been lousy communication to someone who was facing a citation, but it was good communication for six-year-olds who were just beginning to learn about responsible citizenship.

Always consider the audience--even when you ARE the audience. If a particular communication irritates you, consider whether the speaker intends for you to be the audience in the first place.

Daniel
 

Arbiter of Wyrms said:
I cringe when my fellow ENworlders (who are, on the whole, highly literate) use badwrong language.
"Wyrms" is archaic. Prefer "Worms".

"badwrong" is a corruption of jargon. Prefer "inappropriate".

Arbiter of Wyrms said:
Jargon is appropriate in context. Folks on ENWorld know what you mean by "medium base attack," "d12," and "arcane spells." They shouldn't also be expected to keep up with "LD50," "SDAIE," or "POG."
The Interweeb* is also a context, and you are posting on it. LD50, for example, has been common among a subset of the "cool kids" since beofre GIF was a standard, let alone a contested one.

This is a forum about a game, which has links and crossovers to many other games. Expect gamer jargon.

Cheers, -- N

*) Best. Typo. EVAR.
 

Nifft said:
LD50, for example, has been common among a subset of the "cool kids" since beofre GIF was a standard, let alone a contested one.

When I see "LD50" I think "lethal dose 50%". I presume from the context that this is a different LD50?
 
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Lewis526 said:
I disagree with the gist of one of these. She doesn't give credit to the best, most obvious alternative to starting a sentence with "hopefully."

For example, which of the following works better?

Hopefully he didn't really drown those kittens.
I hope he didn't really drown those kittens.

Duh.

Depends on how much concern you want to express. If I was going for an apathetic/sarcastic character, hopefully would be the one I would use. Especially when I use the adverb "dully" to describe how it was said.
 

Pielorinho said:
Don't you dare say, "I looks as if I am winning this game, my friend." Instead, the proper expression would be something like, "Dude, I am so pwning your ass!"
Heh. If I ever get back into MMO's I'm going to do whatever it takes to use only the most proper English whilst fragging my enemies.

You know what bugs me? When people ask questions like "what does pwned/1337/etc mean?" on the Internet. You're on the Internet, mang.
Look it up.


Nareau
 
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