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Ever see a Strengh 18/00 rolled legitimately?


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Dannyalcatraz

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*pfft*

If he were as tough as Chuck Norris, the wizard's spell would have realized the error in targeting, bitch-slapped the spellcaster, then teleported the M[U/I] into solid rock.
 

nedjer

Adventurer
18/99 just the once. Which is a totally raw deal, as I used to go for fighter multi-classes, paladins and rangers all the time in 1e and should, statistically, have had at least one 18/00 :.-(
 

It just occurred to me that 18/00s were kept artificially low to a certain extent- only warriors made that roll. And, as I recall, certain races and even genders couldn't roll for extraordinary strength, either.

Only fighter types could roll for it at all. Gnomes & halflings were capped before 18 so no rolls for them. Elves were limited to 18/75, Dwarves and half-orcs could get up to 18/99 IIRC. Females of the various races were capped at percentages below the males of their race. Only a human male fighter could have an actual 18/00 per the PHB STR table.
 

Ulrick

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<<<<------------ :)

Ulrick was the name of my fighter in 2e AD&D. I rolled an 18/00 strength in front of my friends some 12 years ago using 4d6 drop the lowest method. I rolled an 18, then I rolled percentile dice and got 00.

Ulrick having such strength, at least from the DM's perspective, was unbalancing, considering that Ulrick also specialized in Bastard Swords AND the DM allowed stuff from the Skills and Powers so Ulrick could wield a bastard sword in each hand with only a -4 penalty to each attack (by the high strength this canceled out). With 2nd edition giving fighters multiple attacks per round, Ulrick could kill low-level enemies with ease.

Some pointed out that Ulrick was Drizzt clone. "Nope," I said. "Drizzt uses scimitars and is a Dark Elf. Ulrick is human, uses bastard swords, and doesn't have Dark Elf angst."

Also, Drizzt, as far as I know, never had an 18/00 strength.

I win. ;)

Unfortunately the campaign didn't last very long. But I still have the character sheet.


Edit: And yes, I rolled 18/00 on my first try.
 
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nedjer

Adventurer
Only fighter types could roll for it at all. Gnomes & halflings were capped before 18 so no rolls for them. Elves were limited to 18/75, Dwarves and half-orcs could get up to 18/99 IIRC. Females of the various races were capped at percentages below the males of their race. Only a human male fighter could have an actual 18/00 per the PHB STR table.

Those were my guys. Split class elf fighter/ magic-users and split class half-orc fighter/ thieves - the latter the only option for the 18/99; just enough HP to hack the lower levels on split class and a backstab to die for at 7/7th level :angel:

More happy memories than angel there.
 

Gryph

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Just once. A friend rolled a cavalier under the UA rules. Started with an 18/70 ish strength and raised it to 18/00 at level 5 or 6. Never saw one rolled straight. I rolled a 96 for a half-elf F/MU but had to drop it to 90 due to the racial max.
 

Crazy Jerome

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I had forgotten about the half-ogres. We had those in a few games, but I don't think any of them every got the 18(00).

The only time I saw it legitmately was in those old games we did in high school, where we started on Friday after school and played straight through to Sunday afternoon, with breaks only for meals. Typically, we'd go through around 5 characters per players--so about 30 to 35 total. Brutal. We were using that Unearthed Arcana method one weekend (9d6 for primary stat, et. al.) One guy got the 18(00) and then promptly rolled a 7 for his Con. I think he lasted until the wee hours of Saturday morning. So a 8 hour run or so was pretty impressive. When he died, the rest of the group saluted the character sheet before putting it to rest. :)

I'm detecting somewhat of a recurring theme in this topic ...

The funny thing with the percentage to us though were the number of times someone rolled in the high 40's or low 70's. And then the elf fighter would roll a 92. No one every rolled, say, an 05. ;)
 

aco175

Legend
The first game we officially played after the introduction game and going out to buy our own copy of the red box, the original one. Maybe it was when the first hardcover books came out, the old first edition AD&D, It was like 30 years ago. My father was the dm and my brother rolled it strait-up, before we started with alternate rolling methods, it was 3d6 straight down the line. The only catch, we were playing a party of dwarfs and could only get 18.99. I think we were too young or too new with the rules to change it to keep the .00.

How may times did someone bring a character with .00 that was 'rolled up at home, honest'.
 

Wik

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Only fighter types could roll for it at all. Gnomes & halflings were capped before 18 so no rolls for them. Elves were limited to 18/75, Dwarves and half-orcs could get up to 18/99 IIRC. Females of the various races were capped at percentages below the males of their race. Only a human male fighter could have an actual 18/00 per the PHB STR table.

Not so much in 2e, which I think was a better way of doing it. And I don't remember the exceptional strength gender caps in 1e, either, but then, I didn't exactly play many female characters. :p
 

Roland55

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Probably about half a dozen times over the years. (Alas, none of those were for my own character.) Yes, legitimately.

A whole hell of a lot more than half a dozen if we take out the strict "legitimate" requirement, and yes, in that category, I count a character or two of my own. ;)

You are either profoundly lucky ... or you have played a LOT of D&D!:D

I've been at it for well over 30 years, but have only seen it twice. The first time it was my spouse ... my ridiculously lucky spouse. She rolled 2 18's, a 17, and a 16 for her character ... straight up rolls! And then capped it with that double-0. A ranger, as I recall.

The second time was much later, during the 80s. And that fellow only played for 3 months before being sent overseas.

The next closest was an 18/93 back in the late 80s.
 


The best I personally saw was an 18/97.

I have a friend who once ran a game where one character had legitimately rolled all 18's down the line, with strength being an 18/00. The character died in the third room.
 

Glyfair

Explorer
Only fighter types could roll for it at all. Gnomes & halflings were capped before 18 so no rolls for them. Elves were limited to 18/75, Dwarves and half-orcs could get up to 18/99 IIRC. Females of the various races were capped at percentages below the males of their race. Only a human male fighter could have an actual 18/00 per the PHB STR table.
Indeed, in my early RPG years (pre-1980) I saw an 18/00 rolled and wasted. The player was known for always playing an elf. He decided to play a fighter/wizard multiclass after having an 18 for Strength and 16 for Intelligence. His exceptional strength roll was 00. He tried to convince the DM to allow his elf to keep it, but when that didn't fly he dropped it to the 18/75.
 

nedjer

Adventurer
Of course I played 21,600 fighters :p

Or whenever I got an 18 out of the 6 rolls I went for a fighter class/ sub-class for years. So I was calculating the number of 00s (or not) arising from those 18s. This was deeply statistically wrong of me and I will beat myself with sticks to atone :)
 

I've been playing D&D since 1976/77 or thereabouts and in these 35 years of gaming I've known it to happen only once and I'm the one who managed it. I rolled it for an elven fighter I was making. Everybody was SO jealous when it happened.

The sad part is it made virtually no difference in the game because it was a munchkin cheese fest with the other fighters running around wearing girdle/gauntlet combinations, most of them dwarves with dwarven thrower hammers. My elf who looked like Arnold Schwarzeneggar was a certified weenie when actually compared to other fighter PC's with christmas trees of magic items. Elves in particular came to be derided by other players as effeminate if not closeted homosexuals and neither I, nor my Ogre-strong character were ever given any respect.
 


Wik

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Okay, this is bugging me. The odds are NOT 1 in 216,000 of you getting a fighter with 18/00 strength. Or rather, they're only 1 in 216,000 if you cannot allocate your stats to suit the relevant attributes, because 1 in 216K means that you are rolling 3d6 only once and taking the result.

The actual odds would be something like 216/6(100), or 3,600, which is a bit more reasonable and keeping in line with the experiences of the players on this thread. Actually, I think the odds would be even better for the player; this is using a straight 3d6 roll, and I'm sure a lot of people used 4d6 fairly often.
 

LeStryfe79

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I rolled an 18/100 for a ranger(I made him 6'8" to explain it lol). It was for a campaigns that lasted a single adventure. :( I even drew a sketch dammit haha. Anyways we usually allowed rerolls for characters to get above 18/50, but I don't remember personally playing one of those blasphemies. :)
 


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