Falcon and winter solider

[Stalker0]

But, that was already true. It isn't like Super Soldiers are giant green brutes, or something obvious. If you were walking down the street, and saw Chris Evans, you'd not say, "Hey, that's a super soldier!" Heck, he himself is extremely fit, but not particularly bulky - he has the build of a guy who works out rigorously. There's millions of them out there.

He gets caught by Karli because he was expecting men to be super-soldiers: On guy on video, and the couple he saw lifting crates.

Got to agree here, there's never really been any visual indicators of a super solider, so its unlikely to be a major plot point now. Though with Karli you could at least add in that "scrawny" looking people could now also be super soldiers.

One implication is that it seems to be getting easier to isolate the serum - Erskine needed to bombard it with Vitarays, Isaiah Bradleys serum killed most of the test subjects, Banner triggered something with major side effects using Gamma rays, HYDRA required a slow drip but Nargles working in a container got it to work via a quick shot/swig with no obvious side effects.

Unless Nargle was some superior genius who is to say who the next person will be able to isolate and use...

Yeah I actually really appreciate the realism of that. The simple truth is, science is going to find a way. Though we can lock the genie back in the bottle for a short time, that genie is getting stronger, and each time its going to get harder to stop the inevitable wave of super soldiers. Its less the question of if it will happen, and more "who will control it?"

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Yeah I actually really appreciate the realism of that. The simple truth is, science is going to find a way. Though we can lock the genie back in the bottle for a short time, that genie is getting stronger, and each time its going to get harder to stop the inevitable wave of super soldiers. Its less the question of if it will happen, and more "who will control it?"

And we already knew that Nagel and Hydra recreated it with Isaiah's blood. Depending on how viable the serum stays in the blood after a super soldier dies, the Power Broker may not even need a live person, since his people gunned down that one Flag Smasher a couple of episodes ago.

 

[MarkB]

And we already knew that Nagel and Hydra recreated it with Isaiah's blood. Depending on how viable the serum stays in the blood after a super soldier dies, the Power Broker may not even need a live person, since his people gunned down that one Flag Smasher a couple of episodes ago.

And that's assuming that Nagel didn't write down the formula somewhere that it can be recovered from with sufficient decryption software.

 

[tinaharper]

it took me a lot to get used to the new shield wielding cap (or i should say agent US) lol

 

[hopeless]

Until the Black Widow is released I'd like to know what happened to their version of the super soldier serum as Bucky was in their custody and I can't see them letting him be used by Hydra to kill the Starks and not pass a sample across for them to tinker with?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

And that's assuming that Nagel didn't write down the formula somewhere that it can be recovered from with sufficient decryption software.

If we go with the theory that the Power Broker is Sharon Carter (or Mystique disguised as Sharon Carter) then we have to conclude that the Power Broker no longer needed Nagel.

 

[Morrus]

Still waiting for the winter solider though.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

There is also the possibility that Nagel was a front or decoy and is not the true source of the serum.

 

[Nikosandros]

Still waiting for the winter solider though.

Is that when Winter is so cold that water vapor freezes solid?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I'm waiting for the team-up with the Summer Sailor and the Autumn Airman.