Falcon and winter solider

MarkB

Legend
Let us be clear - that's not really a meaningful thing. It is there so actors don't have to bulk up to play the roles in the series.
Or be digitally bulked-down for their pre-serum versions. But just because there's a real-world reason for it, that doesn't make it meaningless to discuss the in-universe implications.
 

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Umbran

Mod Squad
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Or be digitally bulked-down for their pre-serum versions. But just because there's a real-world reason for it, that doesn't make it meaningless to discuss the in-universe implications.

The point being, they explicated this to keep people from imagining there are deep implications. They can now use any reasonably fit actor, without having to put them through months of diet and exercise before putting them on camera, and not have fans go, "What? How is a super-soldier not built like an Olympic athlete?!?! This means something!1!1!"

Beyond that, I wouldn't expect this to be plot relevant. In-universe implications that won't ever be seen in the fiction are pretty academic.
 


MarkB

Legend
The point being, they explicated this to keep people from imagining there are deep implications. They can now use any reasonably fit actor, without having to put them through months of diet and exercise before putting them on camera, and not have fans go, "What? How is a super-soldier not built like an Olympic athlete?!?! This means something!1!1!"

Beyond that, I wouldn't expect this to be plot relevant. In-universe implications that won't ever be seen in the fiction are pretty academic.
The in-universe implication is that, without any obvious visual cues, literally anyone could be a supersoldier regardless of appearance. It caught Bucky out the first time he encountered Karli, and it let Walker take the serum without any obvious outward effect. That seems like something that could have longer-term implications.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
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The in-universe implication is that, without any obvious visual cues, literally anyone could be a supersoldier regardless of appearance.

But, that was already true. It isn't like Super Soldiers are giant green brutes, or something obvious. If you were walking down the street, and saw Chris Evans, you'd not say, "Hey, that's a super soldier!" Heck, he himself is extremely fit, but not particularly bulky - he has the build of a guy who works out rigorously. There's millions of them out there.

He gets caught by Karli because he was expecting men to be super-soldiers: On guy on video, and the couple he saw lifting crates.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
Beyond that, I wouldn't expect this to be plot relevant. In-universe implications that won't ever be seen in the fiction are pretty academic.
One implication is that it seems to be getting easier to isolate the serum - Erskine needed to bombard it with Vitarays, Isaiah Bradleys serum killed most of the test subjects, Banner triggered something with major side effects using Gamma rays, HYDRA required a slow drip but Nargles working in a container got it to work via a quick shot/swig with no obvious side effects.

Unless Nargle was some superior genius who is to say who the next person will be able to isolate and use...
 

MarkB

Legend
One implication is that it seems to be getting easier to isolate the serum - Erskine needed to bombard it with Vitarays, Isaiah Bradleys serum killed most of the test subjects, Banner triggered something with major side effects using Gamma rays, HYDRA required a slow drip but Nargles working in a container got it to work via a quick shot/swig with no obvious side effects.

Unless Nargle was some superior genius who is to say who the next person will be able to isolate and use...
They'll just start adding it to the water supply like fluoride.
 




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