Fantasy Grounds Usage Stats Through Q1 2019: D&D Up, Pathfinder Down

Paragon Lost · May 14, 2019

Looks like everyone but DnD 5e are basically stagnant in growth. 5e though looks like it's growing at not a bad rate.

pauldanieljohnson · May 15, 2019

Paragon Lost said:
Looks like everyone but DnD 5e are basically stagnant in growth. 5e though looks like it's growing at not a bad rate.

Agreed; and it begs the question as to whether the market is growing in size. To which I believe the answer is yes - RPGs are growing in popularity, and 5e is responsible for the lion's share of that growth, as opposed to growing by cannibalizing customers from other games.

Paragon Lost · May 15, 2019

pauldanieljohnson said:
Agreed; and it begs the question as to whether the market is growing in size. To which I believe the answer is yes - RPGs are growing in popularity, and 5e is responsible for the lion's share of that growth, as opposed to growing by cannibalizing customers from other games.

That would be my take on it as well. Which makes me happy that there is some growth going on in the tabletoprpg genre.

MNblockhead · May 15, 2019

The growth in 5e will eventually result in the growth of other systems. There will be a number of people who will look to diversify the games they play or who get tired of D&D and want to try something else. It'll be interesting to see how long it will take to observe this trickle down effect. I would have thought we'd see more of this already. I started trying and buying other systems about a year after getting into 5e.

Then again, I've never played a Fantasy Grounds game and I don't think any of the games I play other than D&D have FG support.

Parmandur · May 15, 2019

MNblockhead said:
The growth in 5e will eventually result in the growth of other systems. There will be a number of people who will look to diversify the games they play or who get tired of D&D and want to try something else. It'll be interesting to see how long it will take to observe this trickle down effect. I would have thought we'd see more of this already. I started trying and buying other systems about a year after getting into 5e.

Then again, I've never played a Fantasy Grounds game and I don't think any of the games I play other than D&D have FG support.

I would imagine most of the trickle down will eventually go to games that do something substantially different thematically, if anything.

Hussar · May 15, 2019

Until we see a significant slowdown in the growth of 5e, I doubt we'll see much trickle down to be honest. After all, for growth rates to remain steady, the only way trickle down works is if we're actually growing faster than those leaving for other games. Which would require an even faster growth rate than we're seeing currently.

I imagine eventually it will, but, I wouldn't expect much trickle down for some time yet.

Yaarel · May 15, 2019

Am I remembering correctly? Are 4e enthusiasts diminishing along with 3e Pathfinder enthusiasts?

Hussar · May 16, 2019

Well, if you look at the total number of games played, rather than percentages, it appears that 4e and PFRPG are pretty stable overall. Not growing, not shrinking.

MNblockhead · May 16, 2019

Hussar said:
Until we see a significant slowdown in the growth of 5e, I doubt we'll see much trickle down to be honest. After all, for growth rates to remain steady, the only way trickle down works is if we're actually growing faster than those leaving for other games. Which would require an even faster growth rate than we're seeing currently.

I imagine eventually it will, but, I wouldn't expect much trickle down for some time yet.

Well, you don't have to leave 5e to try another system. I got back into TTRPGs with 5e after decades out of the hobby. Within a year I was buying other systems. When I join games on Roll20, they are almost always one-shot/pickup games of more obscure systems. When I play at conventions, I may play a 5e game or two, but mostly use it as an opportunity to play other systems.

I don't currently use Fantasy Ground, but if I did, I would likely be starting with 5e, but would also be trying other systems now and then.

I don't think I'm that unusual in this regard and I am optimistic that the popularity of 5e will bring new players to other systems as well.

Morrus · May 16, 2019

MNblockhead said:
Well, you don't have to leave 5e to try another system.

Yeah. You don’t leave sandwiches when you have a pie. You just have a pie.

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