FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
Maybe your just not very good at analysis.
D&D 5E Fixing the fighter (I know...)
Maybe your just not very good at analysis.
Sacrosanct
Legend
It's literally my day job. Of which I'm very good at it. SMH...
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
Your day job is analyzing D&d?
Sacrosanct
Legend
My day job is analysis. Don't be deliberately obtuse
Salthorae
Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
It seems to be his way in every thread I've seen.
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
The you should be able to tell us what about 5e D&d makes it immune to analysis...
FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
No more obtuse than y’all
I dont assume champions are sufficiently balanced. I know from experience that the fighter class is chosen a lot, plays well enough to meet expectations of most players who chose it and that in play as GM I have more than enough base class features to hang key moments on that I can use its "class" every bit as much as others.
That gets it well out of "extremely underpoweed" and into close enough from class alone.
Since champion is the "simpler option fighter" that prettily much mostly just adds numbers it does not give me more hooks yo use, just means its gonna show a bit more often than the core class.
That gets it into "close enough" based on the play I have seen and read about of it and the others.
Might it need a tweak in certain style of game- sure - but that's gonna be true of any of them.
But as an example I already gave, the fighter class is often viewed as offense only from the white room approach of optimized DPR but a lot of its class features are more focused on defense and sustain - heavy armor, shield, d10 hd, easy to focus on con, second wind, indomitable plus even the use of say action surge for options other than "hit 'em again" like a well-timed dodge or disengage.
In play, even without using the action surge, this is more than enough to show up and be seen in moments of wow in actual play pretty easily and frequently.
Now did emphasize the high strength heavy fighter there, but its also good for the DeX-fighter option perhaps even more "fighter bring one of the few classes where you really have a choice if two different prime stats in an either or choice. Move to the high dex, medium armor and you still get pretty easy to strong AC, similar offense, more range and a lot more skills needed up by both your stat and your athlete feature at 7th without spending a skill point.
In the second more I see and have seen features and results from chouces made in actual play that rise well enough into the play yo be not "extremely underpowered" and indeed even to get to "enough".
Tony Vargas
Legend
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Show up? Yes. Be noticed or acknowledged as such? Not necessarily. Perception can vary quite a bit.
DM Empowerment. The game is just a starting point: what you're analyzing is not actually meant to be used by anyone.
Yet, your white room non-play based number crunch excel sheets eont prove it to him either, or me, so isnt that also not a reasonable position to take to try and use as proof?
