free spells from level up even after death?

[Kershek]

When a wizard levels up, he gets two free spells in his book. What about this situation?

A Wiz5/Ftr1 adventures and becomes a Wiz5/Ftr2. He is halfway to 8th level and is studying for another wizard level.

He gets killed in battle, sending him back to Wiz5/Ftr1, halfway up in XP (18,000XP), and then gets his XP from the battle in which he was killed, bringing him up to 19,832.

At 21,000XP, he will choose to take a level of wizard instead of the level of fighter that he lost, making him a Wiz6/Ftr1. Does he get two free spells? Remember that he is only advancing half a level of wizard from the death (and that level was originally a Fighter level).

Does it seem strange to "reward" a death with two free spells? Should he only get one free spell instead?

 

[Antikinesis]

When a wizard levels up, he gets two free spells in his book. What about this situation?

A Wiz5/Ftr1 adventures and becomes a Wiz5/Ftr2. He is halfway to 8th level and is studying for another wizard level.

He gets killed in battle, sending him back to Wiz5/Ftr1, halfway up in XP (18,000XP), and then gets his XP from the battle in which he was killed, bringing him up to 19,832.

At 21,000XP, he will choose to take a level of wizard instead of the level of fighter that he lost, making him a Wiz6/Ftr1. Does he get two free spells? Remember that he is only advancing half a level of wizard from the death (and that level was originally a Fighter level).

Does it seem strange to "reward" a death with two free spells? Should he only get one free spell instead?

He gets the two free spells. It's balanced because he lost the benefits of the 2nd level of fighter (attack bonus, bonus feat, skills, hit points, etc.).

-AK

 

[nsruf]

There is nothing like a half-level in the official rules. And a wizard 6/fighter 1 should be the same no matter how he got these levels in the first place. He also loses all fighter abilities for the 2nd fighter level, so he can get a full wizard level instead without breaking anything.

However, you are right that the situation is slightly odd, because if he took the wizard level first, he would have the two spells in his book even after dying and could then take a fighter level without losing them. But as a) spells can be added independently of level anyway and b) level loss from dying is pretty harsh, I don't think this is a major problem.

 

[Caliban]

When a wizard levels up, he gets two free spells in his book. What about this situation?

A Wiz5/Ftr1 adventures and becomes a Wiz5/Ftr2. He is halfway to 8th level and is studying for another wizard level.

He gets killed in battle, sending him back to Wiz5/Ftr1, halfway up in XP (18,000XP), and then gets his XP from the battle in which he was killed, bringing him up to 19,832.

At 21,000XP, he will choose to take a level of wizard instead of the level of fighter that he lost, making him a Wiz6/Ftr1. Does he get two free spells? Remember that he is only advancing half a level of wizard from the death (and that level was originally a Fighter level).

Does it seem strange to "reward" a death with two free spells? Should he only get one free spell instead?

He gets the two spells. Besides, you said he was studying to become a wizard on his next level anyway, so he's just finishing that research.

 

[Rashak Mani]

Im going to post this question since its almost the same situation.
(Im posting in my brothers login, too much trouble to log out)

In my Greyhawk campaign, we have a Wizard that was 5th level and died, and a one or two sessions later he was back to 5th level and my DM gave him another two spells. Does he really get another two free 3rd level spells ?
A wizard died yesturday in the campaign im DMing and he was 7th and is now 6th but soon will be 7th again, will he gain another 2 free 4th level spells ?

cloaker

[Edit: spelling]

 

[Asheron]

no he sticks with the 'old' spells

 

[kreynolds]

In my Greyhawk campaign, we have a Wizard that was 5th level and died, and a one or two sessions later he was back to 5th level. Does he get another two free 3rd level spells ?
A wizard died yesturday in the campaign im DMing and he was 7th and is now 6th but soon will be 7th again, will he again another 2 free 4th level spells ?

Did they lose two spells for dying? I'm not sure if you do, that's why I'm asking.

 

[Rashak Mani]

he didnt lose the old spells because it was written in his spellbook, and he didnt lose his spellbook.
So does he gain more spells ?
Should this be a DM call or are there any official responses on this ?

cloaker

 

[Bastoche]

From a balance point of view, he should lose the two spells in his spell book. They're still written there, but he doesn't understands his old notes anymore (what was that again ? Damn I need to work on my calligraphy !). When leveling up he could either re take those spells or pick up two new spells.

You could have him make a "profession(calligraphy)" check to see if he gets two free spells

 

[Rashak Mani]

But what if he was 6th level, died went to 5th level. He can still cast 3rd level spells, he would still understand the two spells he wrote down when he passed to 6th level. When he goes to 6th level again (2nd time) would he gain two more spells ?