Frostburn looking good

Felon,

Actually I was more impressed by the size of the World's Largest Dungeon. :)

I have books that are 224 that I don't like. Just none of them Scarred Lands books. But there are some that are WotC. I am willing to give Frosburn a chance, just as much as Frost and Fur.
 

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Felon said:
Come on now. I'm having trouble buying the arguement that repeating content within the same book is beneficial because it's like having two books in one That's kind of specious reasoning. Heck, it's downright infomercial material :)
I think its nice to have races as monster entries. Makes things easier on us DMs who don't have time to customise everything. Same with the sample characters. I appreciate it.


See, nothing you mentioned there is really all that innovative or definitive in the way it's presented IMO. For instance, what does a gamer really know about handling iicebergs after reading FB that he didn't know before? What do I get from FB's snow goblins that I couldn't have made up on my own?
Enterpising/Desperate people can put a sail on an Iceberg and use it as a ship. 2hrs of your life that you would have spent designing the snow goblin?
Its not that this stuff is amasingly original, its just that it incredibly handy.
Just perusing this post and others, I sense a lot of people giving kudos to FB just for being 244 pages. I was impressed by the size too initially. But it's the same big-bun tactic that fast food companies use.
Some of us like bread.

FB is twice as good as I expected it to be. Which makes it a 4 star product IMO. It is quite specialised and posibly has a limited audience. but hey, I find it really handy as I love to have adventures in the cold north and Deserts. (hence I am looking forward to sandstorm).

Aaron.
 

So sandstorm is next. What do you think they are going to do after that? I am suspecting an ocean book. I think there is a remote possibly a "jungle book" but I doubt it. Temperate is a given, but Cold and Hot create interesting environments and cover a lot of ground. I think we will see an ocean book though. somthing to compliment Dead Man's Chest from NG would be nice.

Aaron.
 

Jester, I've been wondering about that myself. I was thinking subterranean environs, but we've already had an Underdark sourcebook--and despite the smaller pagecount, I enjoyed it much more than FB. Then again, maybe the smaller pagecount justifies a heftier supplement in about a year's time.

I think we'll get swamps and forests next. They offer lots of hazards and environ-specific material. Then mountains and maybe sky/aerial stuff thrown in with that.
 
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Felon said:
Come on now. I'm having trouble buying the arguement that repeating content within the same book is beneficial because it's like having two books in one That's kind of specious reasoning. Heck, it's downright infomercial material :)

See, nothing you mentioned there is really all that innovative or definitive in the way it's presented IMO. For instance, what does a gamer really know about handling iicebergs after reading FB that he didn't know before? What do I get from FB's snow goblins that I couldn't have made up on my own?

Just perusing this post and others, I sense a lot of people giving kudos to FB just for being 244 pages. I was impressed by the size too initially. But it's the same big-bun tactic that fast food companies use.

Well, for one, I appreciate having the new races presented both in playable race format and monster format. It means that if I want one or two as opponents, I don't have to waste an hour writing them up. Its good to have duplicates in this case.

The same goes with the rest of the book. Sure, it won't tell me more about icebergs but it saves me having to make rules up on the spot, and may even give me ideas that I might not have had.

Anyone else think that the desert book should stick with the same naming convention and be be called SunBurn? :p
 


jester47 said:
So sandstorm is next. What do you think they are going to do after that? I am suspecting an ocean book. I think there is a remote possibly a "jungle book" but I doubt it. Temperate is a given, but Cold and Hot create interesting environments and cover a lot of ground. I think we will see an ocean book though. somthing to compliment Dead Man's Chest from NG would be nice.

Given that there were Arctic, Desert, Jungle, and Oceanic racial types in Unearthed Arcana, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see Jungle and Oceanic books before any other environments (after Sandstorm, of course).
 


jester47 said:
So sandstorm is next. What do you think they are going to do after that? I am suspecting an ocean book. I think there is a remote possibly a "jungle book" but I doubt it. Temperate is a given, but Cold and Hot create interesting environments and cover a lot of ground. I think we will see an ocean book though. somthing to compliment Dead Man's Chest from NG would be nice.

Aaron.

Go to the
Far Corners of the World

They have:
  1. Desert
  2. Frozen Lands
  3. Volcano
  4. Tides
  5. Rainforest
  6. Wetland
  7. Deep
  8. Mountains
  9. Woodlands
 

DragonLancer said:
Anyone else think that the desert book should stick with the same naming convention and be be called SunBurn? :p

And after that, we would have:

Grassburn: the book of plains and steppes
Leafburn: the book of forests and jungles
Oceanburn: the book of seas and oceans (sounds like a Nightwish album)
Rockburn: the book of mountains
Darkburn: the book of grottos and the underdark
Voidburn: adventuring in space!
Mudburn: the book of swamps and marshes
...

Nah, better to avoid making the -burn suffix a convention.
 

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