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[Velmont]

Orussus has a purchase limit of 40,000gp right? Thats a +4 weapon max. Which requires what 12th level caster. <- so we need one of those.

The CL written in the description of the item is use for saving throw of the item and dispel magic. It is no way a requirement to create the item. So a 5th level caster can create a +5 weapon if he has the requirement (Access to the proper spells, have the good alignement and race if needed, ect...)

Also, please note that a Scroll of Wish is 29k... so that mean we have a level 17 wizard in teh city? I think not.

 

[Velmont]

I reread it, and my last post sounds condescending/accusatory. I meant to pose it in a more inquisitive tone. Sorry!

The judge picking up a dead game is an important role, and one that I forgot to mention.

I agree with you Rae. If we want to show the best transparency, a judge should be name, even if there is 4 of them involved in it (why I suddenly feels alone ). I, honestly, don't mind, but Bront is true. It's hard to keep track of teh sex of everyone, I'm about to use the (s)he pronoun before all my verbs...

 

[Someone]

So a 5th level caster can create a +5 weapon if he has the requirement (Access to the proper spells, have the good alignement and race if needed, ect...)

No, he can't. Magic weapon crafting rules specifically call a minimum caster level of enhacement bonus x3.

 

[Velmont]

I hate magic item creation rules, the rules are so spread, but you are right, I was wrong, as told here:

Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator’s caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

So does that mean that there is a CL req for crafting magic weapons?

 

[Velmont]

After reading again the creation rule, caster level is a pre-reuisit for:

Armor and weapon: The creator’s caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.

Scrolls, Potions and Wands: I suppose you cannot create an item with caster level higher than yours (but you can lower it). I can't find a place where it is clearly written.

Rings, Rods, Staves, Wonderous Item: None required.

Note teh CL in the description have no relation with the needed caster level. A +2 Flaming longsword need to be caster level 6 to be created, as the enhancement bonus is +2 (2*3 = 6) and the special ability is +1 equivalent ( 1*3 = 3) Taking teh highest of 3 and 6, it is six. But note that the flaming weapon desciption:

Flaming
Upon command, a flaming weapon is sheathed in fire. The fire does not harm the wielder. The effect remains until another command is given. A flaming weapon deals an extra 1d6 points of fire damage on a successful hit. Bows, crossbows, and slings so crafted bestow the fire energy upon their ammunition.

Moderate evocation; CL 10th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor and flame blade, flame strike, or fireball; Price +1 bonus.

It tells CL 10th in the description, that would be use as the CL for dispel and saving throw.

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.

So where do you extrapolate "The caster level requirement for a special ability is equal to 3 times its price modifier"?

 

[Velmont]

Creating a magic weapon has a special prerequisite: The creator’s caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus of the weapon. If an item has both an enhancement bonus and a special ability the higher of the two caster level requirements must be met.

I don't extrapoalte, it is RAW. Look there.

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

Right, but in your example of the +2 Flaming Longsword, you say Flaming has a +1 modifier so it's CL req is 3rd. So if I'm making a +1 Dancing Longsword, 1*3 = 3 (CL req for +1 enhancement) but 4*3 = 12 (CL req for Dancing ability) so the CL req is now 12.

So my question is, where does it say that the +4 price modifier for Dancing (or the +1 price modifier for Flaming) have anything to do with caster levels?

Why is this so incredibly confusing?

 

[Rae ArdGaoth]

And another question: If my character's about to gain a level, and his buddy has a Headband of Intellect +4, can my character borrow the headband for the night and get 2 extra skill points when he levels up?

Or more generally, how do intelligence boosting items affect skill points at a level-up?