Ahhh. Yeah! 'Kay. I've seen that one.
I was hoping to add some more podcasters to my list of "If someone listens to this to a significant degree you should probably avoid them"
Number one on that list is, of course, the Joe Rogan Experience.
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I was hoping to add some more podcasters to my list of "If someone listens to this to a significant degree you should probably avoid them"
Number one on that list is, of course, the Joe Rogan Experience.
You're already ascribing desperation to them - so you've already made claims about them, personally.
I'm suggesting that, given even the vague information we have, it might be reasonable to cut the guy some slack. You want to not do that, to avoid attacking him? That does not really follow.
Gradine
The Elephant in the Room (she/they)
RPG Pundit and his crew are known quantities at this point, and Jim chose to appear on their podcast.
I'm never surprised by how much variability there is in what is known or not known from generation to generation in terms of social media and the like. (Or in how it's not innate in everyone to just google people before participating).
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Mistwell
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I don't recall RPG Pundit ever interviewing anyone on a podcast. And RPG Pundit has no "crew" as far as I know (he lives in Uruguay). Do you have a link to that?
[Edit - Found it. I assume you mean this: Inappropriate Characters. That's a video livestream. I...wouldn't call it "RPGPundit's" livestream, or "his" crew. It's a livestream show featuring people in the RPG industry who many consider to be inappropriate and controversial. They don't even agree with each other I think most of the time? Sort of like a weird Internet version of The View or Bill Marr's Politically Incorrect TV show I guess? I dunno I have not watched it enough to have a good educated opinion. Seems harsh to judge an interviewee with the sins of one of the interviewers?]
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Faolyn
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To be fair, it's always possible that a person hasn't heard of him. I only heard of him a few months ago. I quickly realized upon learning of his existence why he's a person to avoid. I've been gaming a long time but am fairly oblivious. Imagine someone new to gaming.
Or new to much of social media.
billd91
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And even if you're not new to either gaming or social media, there are so many nooks and crannies you may have been involved with that didn't intersect with RPGPundit or nisarg or whatever else he has used as an online ID.
Why do many consider them to be inappropriate and controversial, in your opinion? Do you consider them to be inappropriate and controversial? Would you go on a show with them?
Faolyn
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Like me. I don't do facebook or twitter and typically stay on forums like this.
Rumors abound of a limited edition box set being sent out in coming weeks. I wonder how the backers who paid for it feel about getting an empty box? I also wonder if the change of company name means that under the excuse of being a different company they will do the dirty on the backers?
Libertad
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RPGPundit is on the far-right of the political spectrum and is unremittingly hostile to even other right-wingers who disagree with him. For one such example, he tried to "cancel" Wizards of the Coast when they compared ICE agents torturing immigrants to the kinds of villains adventurers would rescue hapless villagers from. His #dndgate hashtag was an attempt to immerse then in a culture war scandal, but Chris Perkins and others quickly turned it into a discussion on notable gateways and portals in various adventures and campaign settings.
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Wow! That's a great story. I didn't know RPGImpotent tried that.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
They introduced the show as inappropriate and controversial so I just took that line from them. I don't even know most of the people on that show (or maybe I'd know their names if I saw the names but I don't recognize their faces/handles). RPGPundit is really quite annoying and I wouldn't want to work with him, if that's what you're asking. Would I let him ask me a question and then answer his question? I dunno, maybe? I guess depends on the context?
Lots of people go on interview shows with interviewers who they deeply disagree with. I don't think speaking with a person you disagree with should, in itself, paint you with the sins of that person. That's part of how the marketplace of ideas hashes out good ideas from bad ones. It's part of the very book Popper's Paradox comes from (and viewed in a positive way by Popper).
In fact, I see people routinely respond to those they deeply disagree with here. Talking to those you disagree with is pretty important in my opinion. Getting your "good" ideas out to their audience to try and counter their "bad" ideas is useful for a functioning society.
Libertad
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James Ward, from what I saw of his interview, was hardly disagreeing with Pundit. They aligned a lot together on the culture war issues, and during that convo Ward spawned the rather tone-deaf statement that "D&D has plenty of black people: you don't see anyone talking about drow!"
Forgive me for not watching an entire hour, but in regards to inclusivity and the unfortunate implications of biologically-evil humanoid races they struck quite an accord.
Forgive me for not watching an entire hour, but in regards to inclusivity and the unfortunate implications of biologically-evil humanoid races they struck quite an accord.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
So paint Ward with the views HE expresses or says he agrees with. Not the views of the interviewer. The claim was if Ward went on an interview show with someone who has bad views that somehow meant Ward had those bad views merely for going on that show. That's not typically how interview shows work, and I don't think it's a fair standard.
darjr
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Hmmm why would Punidiot single out Jeremy Crawford…. Hmmmm I wonder? Could it be because Puntrid is a bigot, could it be?
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