TSR Giantlands

[Dannyalcatraz]

The whole “theme park” idea makes me want to ask someone to check their medications.

 

[Umbran]

There are hundreds of small press games every year, but we seem to be giving an awful lot of undue attention to this company and game. I mean yes, I am unimpressed. But, why do we keep giving them free publicity?

Please don't try to suppress discussion.

 

[Mistwell]

Please don't try to suppress discussion.

Asking why we give a company attention isn't suppressing discussion, it IS discussion. Telling me to not ask why we keep giving this company attention does feel like suppressing that discussion however.

I mean, if you want discussion you could try and answer my legitimate question. Why do you think we keep giving them publicity?

 

[Steampunkette]

You're trying to have a different discussion which by its very nature encourages a cessation of discussion on the topic.

Like. That's the position you've taken in the side-discussion you've created. That we should not provide them with "Free Publicity" and you're challenging people to convince you that we "Should".

It's an incredibly dishonest rhetorical tactic, especially to then tell a moderator that you're creating a discussion.

"Prove I'm wrong about my only tangentially connected assertion rather than discuss what you were discussing" is some pretty hefty sealioning.

 

[Bolares]

Why do you think we keep giving them publicity?

News are news. If people are still interested in following news about this subject (and popularity and engagement in the threads kinda show that they are) its fair game for news about it to be shared. It doesn't always need to be about giving or not publicity to them

 

[Umbran]

Asking why we give a company attention isn't suppressing discussion, it IS discussion.

When you accompany that with implicit questioning how "worthy" it is for discussion, compared to other games, the negative implications are quite apparent.

I mean, if you want discussion you could try and answer my legitimate question. Why do you think we keep giving them publicity?

Because we don't actually give a hoot about whether it is "free publicity".

You want to talk about the hundreds of other games out there, feel free to start a thread about them.

 

[Mistwell]

News are news. If people are still interested in following news about this subject (and popularity and engagement in the threads kinda show that they are) its fair game for news about it to be shared. It doesn't always need to be about giving or not publicity to them

News about TSR, sure. But discussing Giantlands? Of course if people are interested in discussing it that's fine, but I am curious WHY people are curious to discuss this particular game, separate from the TSR disaster itself? Its Kickstarter was quite a while ago and got almost no discussion.

 

[Mannahnin]

The whole “theme park” idea makes me want to ask someone to check their medications.

I thought I had read something about Dinehart previously working at Evermore Park in Utah. I presumed this was an ambitious attempt by him to leverage that prior experience to offer an unusual (if a pit pie-in-the-sky) additional dimension to the RPG.

This appears to be his professional site:

Home of the Original Narrative Designer

Welcome to the webpage of Stephen E. Dinehart IV, here you can learn more about his work in games, mixed-reality, theme parks and interactive narrative design.

narrativedesigner.com

 

[Bolares]

News about TSR, sure. But discussing Giantlands? Of course if people are interested in discussing it that's fine, but I am curious WHY people are curious to discuss this particular game, separate from the TSR disaster itself? Its Kickstarter was quite a while ago and got almost no discussion.

Giantlands, at this point can hardly be separated from TSR3. So the affluence of news about them will make people wonder about the game. I really don't see where this confusion about the topic can come from.

 

[Gradine]

Jim Ward spent a good hour and a half hanging out on a podcast with three unabashed racists and misogynists.

He does not get to get a free pass on all this