Give Stephen Colbert a free copy of Dungeons and Dragons 4th edition

[Celebrim]

I'd like to know how it is even possible to avoid being political in a thread like this. Even the premise of the thread, that Stephen Colbert is someone who deserves a free copy of the book is politically charged. It's impossible to discuss that without bringing up the question, "Does Stephen Colbert do anything of value?", and sense Mr. Colbert is primarily a political pundit and entertainer, even that question is fundamentally political. It's pretty much impossible to provide an argument for why we should do this that isn't in some fashion politically charged.

For example:

It would certainly help to eliminate the moms-basement dwellling cheeto-fingered too-small-tshirt-with-pithy-quote wearing mountain-dew guzzling image that gamers have at the moment. And that would be good for everybody.

Except, quite a few people associate Stephen Colbert viewers with 'moms-basement dwellling cheeto-fingered too-small-tshirt-with-pithy-quote wearing mountain-dew guzzlers'. Some people would consider that Stephen Colbert endorses the game to be a net negative. Heck, some people would consider that a WotC staffer had this idea to be a reason in itself for not buying 4e.

 

[CharlesRyan]

I'd like to know how it is even possible to avoid being political in a thread like this [. . .] Mr. Colbert is primarily a political pundit . . .

Huh? Unless something's changed drastically in the year or so since I've watched (we don't get the Colbert Report over here in the UK), this statement is completely bogus. Calling Colbert a political pundit is like calling The Daily Show a news outlet. Colbert is a parody of a political pundit, just like The Daily Show is a parody of a news program.

The cogent point is that he's a D&D player who talks about his interest in the game in front of an audience of millions. Why can't we talk about that without devolving into politics?

 

[Wormwood]

I'd like to know how it is even possible to avoid being political in a thread like this.

It helps to get the joke.

 

[Celebrim]

Colbert is a parody of a political pundit, just like The Daily Show is a parody of a news program.

I'm well aware of his schtick. Doing parodies of political pundits is not mutually exclusive with being a political pundit. At all.

The cogent point is that he's a D&D player who talks about his interest in the game in front of an audience of millions. Why can't we talk about that without devolving into politics?

We can talk about Stephen Colbert is a D&D player who talks about his interest in the game in front of an audience of millions without discussing politics.

We can't talk about whether that has a net negative or positive value or whether it is anything we should encourage or reward without it devolving into politics. Even the question of 'Who is Stephen Colbert?' is inevitably going to evolve (or devolve) into politics. It's like trying to answer the question, "Who is Benedict the XVI?" without bringing up religion.

Anyway, carry on. This thread just needs to be tagged, "Echo chamber only please.", because its the only way you can discuss it without breaking site rules.

 

[Mallus]

I'd like to know how it is even possible to avoid being political in a thread like this. Even the premise of the thread, that Stephen Colbert is someone who deserves a free copy of the book is politically charged. It's impossible to discuss that without bringing up the question, "Does Stephen Colbert do anything of value?", and sense Mr. Colbert is primarily a political pundit and entertainer, even that question is fundamentally political. It's pretty much impossible to provide an argument for why we should do this that isn't in some fashion politically charged.

Even your April Fool's posts are verbose and thoughtful. Kudos.

Some people would consider that Stephen Colbert endorses the game to be a net negative.

An attempt to remove humorless gamers from the 4e player base should be considered a plus.

 

[Wormwood]

An attempt to remove humorless gamers from the 4e player base should be consider a plus.

D&D. Serious business.

 

[Celebrim]

An attempt to remove humorless gamers from the 4e player base should be consider a plus.

Thus my reasoning for not wanting Stephen Colbert to play.

 

[Mallus]

Thus my reasoning for not wanting Stephen Colbert to play.

Nice comeback!

 

[Wormwood]

Thus my reasoning for not wanting Stephen Colbert to play.

This explains a lot.

Dude, you should have just said so in the first place.

 

[drjones]

The question is:
4th edition, Great version of Dnd or The Greatest version of Dnd?