God Rules: Players Guide (5e)

[dave2008]

In the style of the book it would look more like the following (albeit Table Title Bars would not be that big)...

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Big improvement IMO!

 

[dave2008]

By the way does anyone know the best way to get a miniature of the God Reaper (the guy on the book cover) commissioned? I see every other Kickstarter has some miniatures and while I don't want to complicate things for my first crowdfunding it would seem like a missed opportunity to not have a miniature of the "main character". I had a look on Etsy and there were some sculptors offering their services for $150-250...is that normal?

Edit: I contacted GreyBlueStudios about the miniature will see what they say.

I have no experience in this field as the only 3D sculptors I know work on movies and would charge a lot more than that. So, to me, it seems like a reasonable price. I would contact a few and see what you can get.

Also, I think it is a great idea! KS that offer miniatures always seem to do well. A neutronium golem would be a cool miniature too! I can just imagine the stretch goals now!

Regarding STL files for miniatures, here is one I have wanted to contact about doing some for me, but haven't pulled the trigger on yet.

Florent Desailly on ArtStation
Here is their Godzilla: Gojira

 

[Upper_Krust]

Big improvement IMO!

Don't know what I was thinking with the garish colouring. Though those might be the colours representing the tiers - in a sort of chakra theme. But they would probably be applied to 7d beings (sentient universes).

 

[Upper_Krust]

I was talking about the rankings of the examples. However, my tiers differ a bit too. I rate deities higher than you. occupying the first 6 immortal tiers (roughly equivalent to the 6 immortal tiers in BECMI) out of ten total tiers (and no entities in the top 2 tiers at all). Personal preference.

Everyone will have an opinion on this. Technically Divine Rank 1 and 2 is still an "immortal" in the D&D sense. But I think it makes more sense to symbolically fold the godlings into the Epic Tier. You can say they are semi-gods and not full immortals.

I also don't care for a DM tier (or something above that), but I never liked that conceit in D&D. Again, personal preference and no slight on what your doing.I

None taken. I appreciate all feedback buddy.

The tiers start to become self-aware starting in the 8th dimension, when they break the Infinity Wall (border of Kuvachim).

As we keep ascending, it's impossible to ignore self awareness of characters and meta-fiction. The Infinity Wall is literally the 4th Wall (the book reveals the others).

the 8th dimension parallels the game map
the 9th dimension parallels your gaming room
The 5th wall represents the game rules (the Akashic Records)
the 10th dimension parallels the game designers and things just beyond the game

Now exactly how much individual groups want to lean into these parallels is up to them. You can still 'play it straight' all the way up.

The white glowing line "glare" on the left hand side was quite distracting for me. But yes, the ultra tier was particularly difficult to read.

Glad you liked the fix.

 

[Upper_Krust]

I have no experience in this field as the only 3D sculptors I know work on movies and would charge a lot more than that. So, to me, it seems like a reasonable price. I would contact a few and see what you can get.

I contacted GreyBlueStudios (very talented) and got a reasonable price. So will go ahead with them. Sorting out the details now.

My plan is to have both the God Reaper and severed Cthulhu head as miniatures.

That said I am not sure what price to have the STL's and physical miniatures? Any suggestions? I need to research these things. Was initially thinking 10 dollars per STL and 35 per miniature. Is that too high, too low, I dunno.

Also, I think it is a great idea! KS that offer miniatures always seem to do well.

Players Guide: God Reaper + Cthulhu head

Epic Bestiary Primer: Main character + steed (not sure if I showed you that art yet)
...lots of really cool potential miniatures (like the Cimeriel among many others not yet revealed), but will see how well the God Reaper sells before commissioning a handful.

Epic Bestiary Planes of Chaos & Epic Bestiary Planes of Law: The Cover monsters might be too big for Miniatures, both are Gargantuan size. But each of those books has dozens of potentially great miniatures.

A neutronium golem would be a cool miniature too! I can just imagine the stretch goals now!

Great idea!

Yes that would be cool - the brand new Neutronium Golem art is looking good too.

Regarding STL files for miniatures, here is one I have wanted to contact about doing some for me, but haven't pulled the trigger on yet.

Florent Desailly on ArtStation
Here is their Godzilla: Gojira

Very nice! A couple of horns and would make a great Tarrasque.

I was thinking a miniature of a Titanic Monster's foot might be fun.

 

[dave2008]

I contacted GreyBlueStudios (very talented) and got a reasonable price. So will go ahead with them. Sorting out the details now.

My plan is to have both the God Reaper and severed Cthulhu head as miniatures.

That said I am not sure what price to have the STL's and physical miniatures? Any suggestions? I need to research these things. Was initially thinking 10 dollars per STL and 35 per miniature. Is that too high, too low, I dunno.



Players Guide: God Reaper + Cthulhu head

Epic Bestiary Primer: Main character + steed (not sure if I showed you that art yet)
...lots of really cool potential miniatures (like the Cimeriel among many others not yet revealed), but will see how well the God Reaper sells before commissioning a handful.

Epic Bestiary Planes of Chaos & Epic Bestiary Planes of Law: The Cover monsters might be too big for Miniatures, both are Gargantuan size. But each of those books has dozens of potentially great miniatures.



Great idea!

Yes that would be cool - the brand new Neutronium Golem art is looking good too.



Very nice! A couple of horns and would make a great Tarrasque.

I was thinking a miniature of a Titanic Monster's foot might be fun.

That all sounds pretty good! Here are my thoughts:

• The STL should be included as part of the base digital package. I would just increase your funding goal to cover the cost.
• Physical models should be offered as part of a limited package (only 50 available or something) and/or a separate add on. I like the limited package approach so you can easily calculate the max cost to you (printing, shipping, etc.) and thus give an accurate price for the package.
• Regarding cost: hard to tell without know what the printing, shipping, time cost to you would be. I would plan the price to be at least be double what you calculate your cost to be. I know I always seem to miscalculate the time it takes to do these types of things.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Everyone will have an opinion on this. Technically Divine Rank 1 and 2 is still an "immortal" in the D&D sense. But I think it makes more sense to symbolically fold the godlings into the Epic Tier. You can say they are semi-gods and not full immortals.



None taken. I appreciate all feedback buddy.

The tiers start to become self-aware starting in the 8th dimension, when they break the Infinity Wall (border of Kuvachim).

As we keep ascending, it's impossible to ignore self awareness of characters and meta-fiction. The Infinity Wall is literally the 4th Wall (the book reveals the others).

the 8th dimension parallels the game map
the 9th dimension parallels your gaming room
The 5th wall represents the game rules (the Akashic Records)
the 10th dimension parallels the game designers and things just beyond the game

Now exactly how much individual groups want to lean into these parallels is up to them. You can still 'play it straight' all the way up.



Glad you liked the fix.

I cannot tell you how excited I am to learn about your view of divinity and the immortal as expressed through this book! This sort of thing is really my jam.

 

[Upper_Krust]

That all sounds pretty good! Here are my thoughts:

• The STL should be included as part of the base digital package. I would just increase your funding goal to cover the cost.
• Physical models should be offered as part of a limited package (only 50 available or something) and/or a separate add on. I like the limited package approach so you can easily calculate the max cost to you (printing, shipping, etc.) and thus give an accurate price for the package.
• Regarding cost: hard to tell without know what the printing, shipping, time cost to you would be. I would plan the price to be at least be double what you calculate your cost to be. I know I always seem to miscalculate the time it takes to do these types of things.

I have looked at half a dozen Kickstarters, they all seem to have STLs and miniatures as add-ons for variable fees. Taking the mean average of what I saw, the fairest prices seem to be:

God Reaper - STL...about $8
God Reaper vs. Cthulhu - STL...about $12

God Reaper - (standalone) Resin Miniature...about $25*
God Reaper vs. Cthulhu - Resin Diorama...about $55*

*However, the God Reaper miniature (with its double scythes) will be a packing nightmare. But looking into the matter, I found some 5x5cm plastic cubes and some 7x7cm plastic cubes (on Amazon) + which combined with Adhesive Magnetically Receptive rubber sheets + Neodymium Magnets in the + black plastic bases would not only give the perfect protection but also make for very cool display cases.

Assuming I had to package 72 (60 God Reaper minis + 12 God Reaper vs Cthulhu dioramas) then probably adding $5 for each shipped mini seems reasonable: So $30 and $60 respectively.

However, given that only I will be able to do all that means shipping to North America (ie. 85% of backers in all likelihood) will be exorbitant. But if I sent one big box containing all the other boxes and then had the recipient post them all for me (paying them obviously) - I can maybe keep the shipping fees on any miniatures to a minimum.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey there Micah Sweet amigo!

I cannot tell you how excited I am to learn about your view of divinity and the immortal as expressed through this book! This sort of thing is really my jam.

I appreciate the interest. I am like a genie trapped in a bottle until this book gets into people's hands. Been a bizarre roller-coaster of creation and each 4-5 months of development have seen some completely new change. This has not been some A (start) to B (finish) but an entire alphabet soup of meandering exploration to Divinity and Beyond!

 

[Micah Sweet]

Hey there Micah Sweet amigo!



I appreciate the interest. I am like a genie trapped in a bottle until this book gets into people's hands. Been a bizarre roller-coaster of creation and each 4-5 months of development have seen some completely new change. This has not been some A (start) to B (finish) but an entire alphabet soup of meandering exploration to Divinity and Beyond!

Well I wish you all the good fortune in the world on this project. Looking forward to helping you fund it!