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Agreed, there are many more disturbing chars for a good game ("I want to play a good drow!", "Can I play a half-vampire weretiger with demon blood and dragon heritage? WHY NOT, YOU'RE SCREWING YOUR PLAYERS!", "My char is called Pete. Pete the fighter. What do you mean that name is strange cause he's supposed to be a level 15 paladin and high marshal of the second biggest church in the world?").

That guy with Leadership reminds me of a game a friend had some time ago... the cohort and the mooks were played by the other players. This group didn't have a problem with different levels for their chars and the mooks got replaced fast... and the cohort had a real nice sidekick touch, more annoying than Redcloak and more useful than Doc Watson.

Since it worked so well, the DM allowed the mooks to advance as normal... Till they had a nearly normal PC group. Still, that DM still has nightmares about their teamwork. He said he's never seen anything like that.
 

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Umbran said:
Yo, you know, what with all the pipeweed leaf coming out of the Shire, you should know better.

I mean, really - does everyone in the party want to deal with your drug hobbit?
*lol*
I betcha this character is going to be chasing the dragon all the time.
 

Old Gumphrey said:
I just saw that today actually, and it looks...completely vital. I was also thinking about doing a lyric thaumaturge. I honestly never saw this guy as a caster, though, but rogue archers are so terrible and nothing else has the skill points. I might roll out this Jester class, I'm checking it out as we speak. He seems more the type to screw over the opposition anyway.

Be careful with debuffs. You can usually control your party's composition better (to ensure they're affected by your buffs) than you can control the enemy's type (because a lot of stuff is immune to Morale effects, or to mind-affecting effects in general).

The Bard is universally useful because he can buff the party as a last resort -- like when fighting golems who are immune to nearly all magic.

Anyway. The other totally brilliant thing about Lyrical Casting is that it obviates Concentration (!!!). The feat effectively gets you a bonus skill point every level. :)

Let's see, feats you need:
Lyrical Casting
Rapid Reload
Crossbow Sniper
Leadership
Point Blank Shot
Precise Shot
Rapid Shot

Wow, that's a lot. How many Fighter levels were you planning to take?


Old Gumphrey said:
It's not my fault if other people can't suspend disbelief to imagine that a halfling bard with a repeating crossbow can specialize in an invented style of rhythmic rhyming vocals and is very interested in prostitutes, money, and showboating can be a legitimate fantasy fiction character.

No-one gets up the Dwarf's nose when he shouts "ALE AND WHORES", do they? ;)

Peace, -- N
 

Old Gumphrey, I don't have much that's useful to add that hasn't already been said. You may want to get mindlink or something similar made permanent onto yourself and at least your cohort, possibly the other mooks too, 'cause, it makes it that much more dramatic when you hose down a corridor, and dive out a window landing next to the vehicle that just pulled up.
As a sidenote, you may want to consider getting the wagon self-propelled properties (I know that there are some in Arms and Equipment, I don't know if they've been reprinted elsewhere).

Nevertheless, I salute you for sheer ingenuity. I like this concept.

This guy would fly with my group (although we'd probably crack up every so often), and we're not a particularly weird group for characters (well, unless by weird you mean 2/3s of us are running strictly PHB/DMG characters when we've got access to a whole lot more).
 

I used to have an NPC bard in my Epic game named Quata. (That's quarter, w/a bit of southside.) He was a ton of fun to play, gave the Epic PCs fits (w/his pimpin' attitude), and he was basically surrondend by thugs and hos.

I think you've got a great PC idea, but don't be suprised if your pimpery upsets the other PCs. Then again, this might be exactly what you are going for. . . Make sure to act mega tough, and use foul language on everyone (b*&%#, please! Gimme that Cure Lights potion).

Maybe one of my PCs will chime in about having a 25 cent guy around.

-AoA
 

Nifft said:
Let's see, feats you need:
Lyrical Casting
Rapid Reload
Crossbow Sniper
Leadership
Point Blank Shot
Precise Shot
Rapid Shot

Wow, that's a lot. How many Fighter levels were you planning to take?
Exotic Weapon Proficiency? Weapon Focus, Weapon Spec, Ranged Weapon Mastery, Greater Weapon Focus, Imp Critical, Telling Blow, Greater Weapon Focus...

Handcrossbows would be interesting for TWF and ITWF... how many flaws did you want to take :D?

You need a feat sixpack.
 

Darklone said:
Exotic Weapon Proficiency? Weapon Focus, Weapon Spec, Ranged Weapon Mastery, Greater Weapon Focus, Imp Critical, Telling Blow, Greater Weapon Focus...

Handcrossbows would be interesting for TWF and ITWF...

Can't reload even a hand-xbow with just one hand, so drop the exotic weapon proficiency -- repeating xbow not worth it either, thanks to the full-round reload action and limit of five quarrels.

IMHO, weapon spec and greater weapon spec are a waste, compared to Crossbow Sniper. Hell, I don't think he even needs weapon focus, not with his bonus from Inspire Courage and his excellent Dexterity.

Ranged Weapon Mastery would be worth taking Weapon Spec, but only if you qualified for Weapon Spec via six Warblade levels -- otherwise, the loss of Inspire Courage bonus is not compensated by feats.

Peace, -- N
 

Considering the other silly rulings on holding twohanded weapons with one hand while spellcasting, I have no problem with having hand-crossbows attached to bracers ... or holding them with your mouth. Rapid Reload is pretty silly anyhow.

WS is worth it for non-bards. And TWF+haste+Rapid Shot ;)

But you're right, this Crossbow build is best for a ftr/rog with many feats.
 

Get a Self-loading Crossbow.

I think that's what it's called anyway (auto-loads from an extra-dimensional space - 200 shots!) in Arms and Equipment, may have been reprinted elsewhere.
 

You could get that doomspeak feat from Champions of Ruin. It's a bardic music feat thats shakes them. Replace "doom" with epithets about "yo' momma."

Or a level of dirge singer, for the song of grief (more cussin'), and love's lament spell from the spell compendium. Their mommas will be well hated on.

Love the character concept...do you mind if I rip if off for an NPC in my campaign?
 

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