Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows - POTENTIAL SPOILERS

Hijinks said:
Hrm you wouldn't think they would let him be an Auror, having used (or tried to use) two of the unforgivable curses.
"I'm sorry, Mr. Potter, but as the law clearly states-"

IMPERIO!

"You are free to become an auror. "
 

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Flexor the Mighty! said:
That seems strange, If Harry becomes an Auror wouldn't he always be at risk of being disarmed, defeated, out dueled, thus losing control of the Elder Wand? Didn't he say he has had enough excitement for a lifetime at the end of the book?

She says Harry & Ron totally revamp the Aurors, so I assume that included the policy of "Former Death Eater Meat Shields", which are placed all about him, ready to take a killing curse in his stead. I imagine they also outlawed all criminals, thus making it a lot safer.
 

Or they simply 'forgot' to tell people that Harry replaced the Elder Wand back in Dumbeldore's tomb. So even if Harry is disarmed, the Deathstick is locked under a tonne of granite on the grounds of the most magically protected place in Britain.
 

Flexor the Mighty! said:
I was just stating what she wrote in the book when Harry was talking about putting the Wand back in Dumbledore's tomb for that reason.

I'm not gainsaying your comment. I was more pointing out that she didn't think through the consequences of what she wrote.

buzzard
 

In the end, if it is not in the book, then it is not really part of the story. Just because Rowling sees Ron and Harry revamping the Auror office does not mean it is fact. It is completely omitted from the story leaving it up to the reader on where they see the characters going and doing.

If you believe her word as canon the, she does not mention that Harry joins the Minisrty right away. He could have gone to school for a year and then explored some failed or unfillfilling job choices before being approached by the ministry to take a key role in re-organizing a dissheveled, understaffed and unorganized Auror branch. Obviosuly being a Auror for the nex 19 years is not too danerous. If Ron survived being as dimwitted and unskilled as he is, there must not have been too much trouble.
 

I think Harry being an Auror (or Ron too for that matter) doesn't automatically mean constant field work, and thus threat of the Elder Wand's legacy continuing past Harry's natural death. I think Hagrid had the measure of him when he said Harry would "be a thumpin' good" wizard "once he'd trained up a bit." After all, Harry managed to do alright against older and more accomplished wizards and that was only with haphazard defensive training. Now take all that raw talent and put him under the tutelage of the best Aurors out there, and you've got the recipe for an Auror that might one day rival the near-legendary Mad-Eye Moody. Ron might do better as support staff than field agent.

Also, who's to say that if someone managed to Disarm or defeat (but not kill Harry), that he couldn't bounce right back and defeat them, thus reclaiming control of the Elder Wand?
 

Digital M@ said:
In the end, if it is not in the book, then it is not really part of the story. Just because Rowling sees Ron and Harry revamping the Auror office does not mean it is fact. It is completely omitted from the story leaving it up to the reader on where they see the characters going and doing.

If you believe her word as canon the, she does not mention that Harry joins the Minisrty right away. He could have gone to school for a year and then explored some failed or unfillfilling job choices before being approached by the ministry to take a key role in re-organizing a dissheveled, understaffed and unorganized Auror branch. Obviosuly being a Auror for the nex 19 years is not too danerous. If Ron survived being as dimwitted and unskilled as he is, there must not have been too much trouble.

I don't much like this notion that some people have about Ron being dimwitted, unskilled, the comedy-relief side-kick who can't do anything right, etc., etc., etc. He can be a funny character, no doubt. Hell, he's the younger brother of Fred and George! Yeah, he has sometimes suffered from a lack of confidence--he is the youngest of 6 brothers--all rather remarkable in their own way. And we're seeing Ron as a teenager...

Ron shows incredible resourcefulness, intelligence, and bravery. No, he's not constantly resourceful, intelligent, or brave. None of the characters are. It was Ron who got past McGonall's chess set in the quest to save the Sorcerer's Stone--sacrificing himself in the process, I might add. He goes out into the forbidden forest, following the spiders--and he has a severe case of archnaphobia! It was difficult enough to enter that forest--but to do so facing your greatest fear, that took more bravery than Harry displayed at that moment. It was Ron who had the brilliant idea to get some basilisk fangs from the chamber of secrets to destroy the horcruxes. It was Ron who opened the chamber--figuring out the right way of saying "open" in parseltongue.

Ron may not be as daring as Harry. Harry's daring is in part a result of the life he's led, the family he was denied, the bullying he endured. Ron had the idyllic family--even with Percy, and in spite of the fact his teddy bear was turned into a spider by his brother. Compare Ron's daring to the rest of the student population at Hogwarts--he far surpasses his classmates. Ron's not as brilliant as Hermione--then again, no student at Hogwarts is--including Harry.

When constantly compared to Harry and Hermione, yeah Ron will come up short in a number of ways. But too many people forget when comparing them that you're comparing extraordinary characters. Just because Ron is not as extraordinary as Harry or Hermione in their fashion, does not make Ron a sub-standard character.
 

my general thoughts: I liked the book a lot overall, but I thought it could have used some trimming, particularly in the 'wandering in the wilderness' scenes. The battle at Hogwarts was just neat... that'll make a great scene in the final movie...
 


Finally got to read this Friday, after waiting until my b-day for my copy. :)

I did expect that there'd be a bit more horcrux hunting in the bulk of the book, but it was nonetheless a fun read. Besides not telling more of their futures, my main quibble is that the deathly hallows themselves seemed almost like a retcon in comparison to so many of the other details. In particular, in DH, Harry's cloak is supposed to be a perfect invisibility cloak, but, IIRC, Moody's eye and the Marauder's Map can "see" through it. Or is Xeno just an unreliable narrator, like Volo is supposed to be?
 

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