Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows - POTENTIAL SPOILERS

Considering their actions and the results, and their allies, Harry, Hermione, Ron, and Neville could have written their own tickets to anywhere after the events in Book Seven.
Want to be Head of the Auror Department? You got it. Want to be head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement? You got it. Think everyone in the Ministry of Magic needs a thousand percent pay raise? You got it. Want to be Minister of Magic? You got it. Want Hogwart's reorganized the way you want it? You got it. (Oh, and you want Outstanding Grades on every known wizarding subject? You got it.)

Our author states that Harry, Hermione, and Ron played the major role in reorganizing the Ministry of Magic (for all intents and purposes, reorganizing and rebuilding the government of Great Britain.) They completely made it over into something new. It is implied this new Ministry is free of political corruption in the normal sense, and is a highly competent and effective government.

Rowling also implies there were 19 years of peace and quiet. We may have Harry in the James Bond department (the Aurors) and Hermione Granger in the Sherlock Holmes department (Magical Law Enforcement) but in those 19 years no SPECTRE or Moriarty (sp?) emerged to become a problem.
Which is well and good. One would think Harry, Hermione, and the others had earned some peace and quiet.

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Quoting Rowling:

Harry, Ron and Hermione don’t join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a “really good place to be.”

“They made a new world,” Rowling said.
 
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Edena_of_Neith said:
Quoting Rowling:

Harry, Ron and Hermione don’t join the same Ministry of Magic they had been at odds with for years; they revolutionize it and the ministry evolves into a “really good place to be.”

“They made a new world,” Rowling said.

That seems like exactly the sort of thing that belongs in the epilogue! After all, its the end to THEIR story - not the beginning of their kid's...

I'm sure I'll gripe about Rowling using tantalizing details like this to sell future books... as I stand in line to pay for them. :o
 

Edena_of_Neith said:
Considering their actions and the results, and their allies, Harry, Hermione, Ron, and Neville could have written their own tickets to anywhere after the events in Book Seven.
Plus, they know the people that ARE running things at that point. I can't imagine thing settle down right away, like LotR still had battle raging, in spite of no Dark Lord.

The Dementor rebellion, giants in Britain, the goblins ill-treatment, not to mention figuring out which folks were actually loyal to Voldemort vs those Imperioused.

The books had been getting steadily "older" in nature, but 7 seemed to change the format a bit (in the way that I mentioned it seemed to be made more with the movie in mind), and frankly I think the ending itself was written for a younger audience. "oh, they're married, happy, have kids, how cute" the end.

Our author states that Harry, Hermione, and Ron played the major role in reorganizing the Ministry of Magic (for all intents and purposes, reorganizing and rebuilding the government of Great Britain.) They completely made it over into something new. It is implied this new Ministry is free of political corruption in the normal sense, and is a highly competent and effective government.
Sure it's a fantasy series, but I don't think any of us can swing enough suspension of disbelieve to think there is a compentent and effective government.
 

Edena_of_Neith said:
Our author states that Harry, Hermione, and Ron played the major role in reorganizing the Ministry of Magic (for all intents and purposes, reorganizing and rebuilding the government of Great Britain.)

The normal and Wizarding worlds barely intersect, though. They sent one guy to protect the muggle Prime Minister but that was it. The Ministry of Magic kinda goes it's own way and stays out of the mundane's realm and visa-versa. I doubt that if the Prime Minister really had any effect on the Ministry of Magic that he's have allowed it's excesses in the latter books. He seems to know that it exists, but that's about it.
 

Vocenoctum said:
Sure it's a fantasy series, but I don't think any of us can swing enough suspension of disbelieve to think there is a compentent and effective government.
Sure you can...just ram your head into a brick wall several times. :D
 

Digital M@ said:
In the end, if it is not in the book, then it is not really part of the story. Just because Rowling sees Ron and Harry revamping the Auror office does not mean it is fact. It is completely omitted from the story leaving it up to the reader on where they see the characters going and doing.

Good point. If it isn't on the page it didn't really happen, yet or at all. Personally I think HP would lead a quite life after all that crap.
 

freyar said:
Finally got to read this Friday, after waiting until my b-day for my copy. :)

I did expect that there'd be a bit more horcrux hunting in the bulk of the book, but it was nonetheless a fun read. Besides not telling more of their futures, my main quibble is that the deathly hallows themselves seemed almost like a retcon in comparison to so many of the other details. In particular, in DH, Harry's cloak is supposed to be a perfect invisibility cloak, but, IIRC, Moody's eye and the Marauder's Map can "see" through it. Or is Xeno just an unreliable narrator, like Volo is supposed to be?

I may have missed it, but I don't really see why the hallows were essential to the story or what they even added. I mean you could have shown a young Dumbledore hungry for power in any number of ways. The super wand never really plays a role and could of been any wand of renoun power. The cloak as quoted above, was nothing more than an ordinary cloak of invisabilit that did not break down.

I really want to like this book more than I do, I keep replaying it in my head, focusing on the parts I liked. While I did not want Harry to be a Horcrux, I could live with it and embrace it, but I really wanted Harry to mature and apply himself. I wanted Harry to show some cleverness, ingenuity and real potential. Instead we see Hermione doing all of the spell casting, solving all of the problems and taking charge of all of the situations. ROwling should have ust kept Dumbledore alive if Harry was not going to solve anything on his own. And having Harry win by turning V's spell back on himself was unfullfilling. I wanted Harry to become the hero everyone thought he was.

Now, maybe part of the point of the story was to shed light that hero's feats are often blown out of proportion, that they can't do things for themselves or they might not even be the most important character in the turn of events, but that is not what I wanted out of this story. I wanted Harry to really become the "choosen one" istead of stumbling on through a bunch of accidents and the work of others.

IMO, Harry could of shined and Neville could have still killed the snake and Hermione could have been smart and adept and Ron could have followed people around and been dependable. The book also seemed rushed. Neville's killing scene could of had more grandure, Fred's death more trauma etc. The action scenes were fast and sometimes hard to follow. They did not have the same grandure as the end of the Order of the Pheonix, which is one of my all time favorite combat scenes. To much too fast, even the many excelllent parts of the book can be easily glossed over and too quickly dissappear by all of the other activities. I will re-read it after my wife is done as I siad before I really really want to like this book and I hope I over looked things in my first reading.
 


Flexor the Mighty! said:
I don't think so. That is why Dementors were so feared, they destroyed the soul. The killing curse just kills instantly.
Also Snape would not have used the killing curse on dumbles had it been a soul destroyer.

Hell, IMHO the Ministry of Magic's willfull use of dementors put them on my :):):):) list. I like the dementors as a monster, but using those damnable things is a hell of a lot worse than any 'unforgivable curse'
 

Pyrex said:
Apparently they really aren't that unforgivable afterall.

Harry has used them, Draco has used them, even McGonnagal has used them; yet none of them (apparently) were ever brought up on charges.

We actually already knew this was the case from Goblet of Fire. Barty Crouch, during the first Voldemort crisis, had the Ministry using the curses on Death Eaters and most of the wizarding world agreed with his decision.
 

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