Hasted Sors, and the Metamagic monkey

[Xarlen]

If a sorceror is hasted, and he uses metamagic for a full round action, does he still get the extra partial action?

 

[Veldrane]

Yo

Why shouldn't?

 

[Xarlen]

And the Full Round Action is simply where he casts the spell, and can't do anything but move five feet; he loses any standard actions. Right?

 

[kreynolds]

And the Full Round Action is simply where he casts the spell, and can't do anything but move five feet; he loses any standard actions. Right?

I'm not sure that I'm fully comprehending this statement so I'll spell it out, just in case. If you are hasted, you can:

Cast a full-round action, take a 5-foot step, and use your hasted partial action. (Note: Anybody know if you can take a 5-foot step with a partial action from haste?)

 

[EOL]

Yes, this also means that a fighter can move (with the hasted partial) and do a full attack or whirlwind. Haste can get really nasty really fast.

 

[Crothian]

I'm not sure that I'm fully comprehending this statement so I'll spell it out, just in case. If you are hasted, you can:

Cast a full-round action, take a 5-foot step, and use your hasted partial action. (Note: Anybody know if you can take a 5-foot step with a partial action from haste?)

That arguement went for like 12 pages I think. You might be able to find it. Soem people quoted that you can only take one 5 ft step per reound. While others argued that the extra partial action was an exception or didn't apply for some reason. It got rather heated and no consenses was ever found AFAIK.

 

[kreynolds]

It got rather heated and no consenses was ever found AFAIK.

Been a lot of that going around lately.

 

[Xarlen]

Partial action is not a move. You get a Partial action (Attack, Spell, grabbing poiton, whatnot), and a move action. This can be 5', 30', whatnot.

If you do a full round action, You Can Only Move 5'. Doesn't mater if you're hasted; you just get your regular set of attacks.

So, a Sor can Full Round Action a spell, then step, then spell again.

 

[AuraSeer]

Xarlen: no.

An unhasted sorcerer can only move 5' in a round when he casts a metamagicked spell. BUT once the "normal" round is over, he's done casting. If he's hasted, he now has an extra partial action, and he can move or attack or cast another spell (non-meta), or anything else that he could do with a partial action.

 

[EOL]

Partial action is not a move. You get a Partial action (Attack, Spell, grabbing poiton, whatnot), and a move action. This can be 5', 30', whatnot.

If you do a full round action, You Can Only Move 5'. Doesn't mater if you're hasted; you just get your regular set of attacks.

So, a Sor can Full Round Action a spell, then step, then spell again.

From the PHB:

Generally, a character can accomplish either portion of a standard action (that is, moving full speed or attacking) during a partial action, but not both.

From the glossary pg. 280