Hate for new look for Green Dragon

[teitan]

Meh ... to me the problem isn't the dragon design, it's WAR's style. It's irrelevant to 4E.

You don't know that until you see the rest of the art.

 

[Jhaelen]

I actually quite like it.

In fact, now that I compare them side by side, I actually really dislike the current green dragon.

One of my players suprised me last session by saying he disliked the look of the green dragons. His favorite are the blue dragons.

Interestingly, the blue ones are the ones I dislike most *shrug*.

It's fine by me if they give all of the iconic monsters a facelift. They'll probably have their reasons, too:
They'll want to make sure from the very beginning that all of the monsters can be easily created as minis.

 

[Jdvn1]

Meh ... to me the problem isn't the dragon design, it's WAR's style. It's irrelevant to 4E.

I don't know what this means. How can someone's art be irrelevant to a game system (particularly one that it was made specifically for)?

 

[Dog Moon]

I like the horns along the jaw but not the nose so much.

Actually, I agree with this. Take out the nose, and I think the picture is fine.

 

[WayneLigon]

I don't know what this means. How can someone's art be irrelevant to a game system (particularly one that it was made specifically for)?

In the larger sense, it is totally irrelevant to the game rules and the campaigns. On one hand, the art simply doesn't matter; I've even heard people bitch about there being any art at all as that takes away space from rules text (from what's been hinted at, they'll be especially disappointed with this new edition). A green dragon will be whatever you want it to look like.

On the other hand of course, the art sets the tone for a book or an entire game. I strongly suspect to this day that a significant portion of the love people have for Planescape comes solely and completely from the powerful, whimsical and evocative Tony DiTerlizzi art.

I like the dragon well enough. I like that we have more consistancy between artists, now, as to a brand name look and feel for a particular monster. And it's irrelevant if I like it. If I didn't, I'd best be getting used to it.

 

[Jdvn1]

In the larger sense, it is totally irrelevant to the game rules and the campaigns. On one hand, the art simply doesn't matter; I've even heard people bitch about there being any art at all as that takes away space from rules text (from what's been hinted at, they'll be especially disappointed with this new edition). A green dragon will be whatever you want it to look like.

I can understand that, and I might even agree. But Olgar Shiverstone said that WAR's style specifically is irrelevant, which I don't get. D&D, I think, is a flexible enough game to fall into a couple different genres, depending on the GM, so I can see how all art might be irrelevant, since it's near-impossible to have catch-all art.

On the other hand of course, the art sets the tone for a book or an entire game. I strongly suspect to this day that a significant portion of the love people have for Planescape comes solely and completely from the powerful, whimsical and evocative Tony DiTerlizzi art.

In this case, since we know that they're taking D&D in a different direction (someone mentioned darkness with specks of light?) that hasn't been completely fleshed out (and, likely will never be fleshed out), how can such an assessment be made, particularly at this stage in the game?

I know you didn't give the original post that I'm referring to, but you did comment. Don't mean to pick on you or anything. They're general questions, directed at a topic, not a person.

 

[heirodule]

To tell the truth, I dislike the idea that every dragon of a certain color looks exactly alike (except for size). I think there should be as much variety in dragons as there is in people..

What was equally silly was a by-the-rules interpretation in a rpga module, that you could only identify the skulls of dead dragon colors with a DC 30 or so arcana check.

Any player could tell by asking "did it have a big nose horn" "did it have a crest" but you had to make the roll

 

[Mythmere1]

Actually, except for the nose spike, it would look cool. The nose spike totally kills it, though. It looks like a shnoz dragon...

 

[megamania]

Doea it get a charge attack? Looks like a natural jouster to me.

 

[Mokona]

The green dragon looks very cool to me. I also don't like the silly head of the 3rd edition green dragon. Dragons from Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition also cause problems with established settings (you'll notice that none of the Dragonlance versions look like 3rd edition).