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Have you become disillusioned with 3rd edition?
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Desdichado
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Currently playing 3.5 edition Age of Worms, but in recent campaigns we've also played some d20 homegrown offshoot, d20 Modern and d20 Call of Cthulhu.der_kluge said:
My biggest disillusionment with third edition still is that it became 3.5.
StupidSmurf
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Dark Jezter said:
That's exactly my situation.
GVDammerung
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Michael Tree said:
Exactly. "Disillusioned" may be too strong a term but it gets the idea across very well. The reliance on magic items and the rigor of DMing much over 12th Level is such that it makes me well disposed to talk of a 4th Edition. 3X is "broken" at higher levels. IMO.
Completely utterly and irreversibly disillusionned. Ironically, I still play 3.5 in one of the greatest campaign I've ever played.
However if we played with ANY system but 3.X, it would be infinitly better. Each session, we are struggling with the rules. Granted, the DM is anal about playing RAW and canon FRCS which could be considered the root of the problem IMO. But that campaign made me realized how much the 3.X ruleset fits only one kind of game. Anything that goes beyond that become a VERY boring strategy game.
I've been a very stong advocate for 3.X since it came out. But since about 2 months, I'm profondly digusted by it. It will be my last D&D ever. I don't know what I'll play next.
For those of you who wonder why I keep playing?
1) the other players don't have the same opinion of the impact of the rules on the game as me. Therefore they don't see the point of changing system since the campaign is (for them) a complete success. The DM, of course, who planned ahead do not want to change system
2) I wanted to quit at some point but part of the enjoyment felt by my friends came by the fact that I played with them. If I quitted, the would quit too and nobody wanted that.
3) I'm not the kind of [insert unsuited word for Eric's grandma] who can't make some compromise. I hate the system, I begin to hate the setting but we can make minor changes that would make me happy enough to keep playing.
What next? I'm sick of d20 in general and overcomplicated systems. I'd like to play in the star wars campaign setting but with a simple system (True20 is still too complicated to my liking!). Probably a homebrew dice pool style.
However if we played with ANY system but 3.X, it would be infinitly better. Each session, we are struggling with the rules. Granted, the DM is anal about playing RAW and canon FRCS which could be considered the root of the problem IMO. But that campaign made me realized how much the 3.X ruleset fits only one kind of game. Anything that goes beyond that become a VERY boring strategy game.
I've been a very stong advocate for 3.X since it came out. But since about 2 months, I'm profondly digusted by it. It will be my last D&D ever. I don't know what I'll play next.
For those of you who wonder why I keep playing?
1) the other players don't have the same opinion of the impact of the rules on the game as me. Therefore they don't see the point of changing system since the campaign is (for them) a complete success. The DM, of course, who planned ahead do not want to change system
2) I wanted to quit at some point but part of the enjoyment felt by my friends came by the fact that I played with them. If I quitted, the would quit too and nobody wanted that.
3) I'm not the kind of [insert unsuited word for Eric's grandma] who can't make some compromise. I hate the system, I begin to hate the setting but we can make minor changes that would make me happy enough to keep playing.
What next? I'm sick of d20 in general and overcomplicated systems. I'd like to play in the star wars campaign setting but with a simple system (True20 is still too complicated to my liking!). Probably a homebrew dice pool style.
Melan
Explorer
I was disillusioned two years ago. Right now, I am happy running a C&C Basic game with some d20 and 1e stuff thrown in. I have found that limiting myself to a select number of options is liberating. I don't need more. So that's it. I don't love 3e anymore, and wouldn't really like to play it again barring some extraordinary DMing, but I don't hate it either. Now, some attitudes typically found in 3e players still drive me up the wall. But I guess there are oldschooler attitudes which do the same.
Chaldfont
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I'm still Dming a campaign I started back when 3.0 came out. We are working up to a Grand Finale. But I'm getting burned out on the amount of time it takes to prep a game for 14th level characters. I'm looking forward to going back to being a player and only working on one character. Or playing something else, like a bunch of short, 1-3 session campaigns in other game systems.
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