D&D 5E Have You Started Planning How You Will End 5e Yet?

No, I don't like the direction of the changes. The feedback is 80%+ positive because those of us who don't like it have already checked out of the discussion.

I won't be buying any of the new books. One of my players probably will because he buys everything, but other than that, I don't expect most of them will go out and buy new PHBs.

So a good decision not to design for those of you?
Or maybe you are the majority and it is a terrible decision. But I have the feeling, that a cleaned up version of 5e can be sustainable for a few more years. Killing it now would be the worst mistake they could make.
That would ruin the impact of baldur's gate 3 when it finally got out. A bit how baldur's gate 1 and 2 was somwhow badly timed, as you play a great dnd game and a few month later, the rules have completely changed...
 
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Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
My Drakkenheim campaign (look up dungeons of drakkenheim, I highly recommend it!) has at least a year left in it, so I'm definitely waiting until that is finished at the least.

After that... I don't know, we'll see!
 

J-H

Hero
So a good devision not to design for those of you?
Or maybe you are the majority and it is a terrible decision. But I have the feeling, that a cleaned up version of 5e can be sustainable for a few more years. Killing it now would be the worst mistake they could do.
That would ruin the impact of baldur's gate 3 when it finally got out. A bit how baldur's gate 1 and 2 was somwhow badly timed, as you play a great dnd game and a few month later, the rules have completely changed...
That's the multi-million dollar question for WOTC/Hasbro... will the market support the new edition, or will most people who have already bought 5e (10M+?) do 5 minutes of research, go "meh" and not spend the money?

If so, there's a risk that they will double down on the mistake by making moves to shut down 5e as we currently have it by forcing changes through D&D Beyond and other channels, making people go from apathetic to upset.

It's already been annoying to have to deal with "No, select the Legacy Goliath option on D&D Beyond, not the Mordenkainen's version" with some of my players. Adding "Also don't pick the 5.5e version" and potentially having some people with/without different versions makes it worse. Do the original Cleric features get shoved into a "Optional Class Features" sub-tab?

They have walked themselves into the middle of a waist-high mud puddle. No matter what they do, it's going to be messy.
 

That's the multi-million dollar question for WOTC/Hasbro... will the market support the new edition, or will most people who have already bought 5e (10M+?) do 5 minutes of research, go "meh" and not spend the money?

If so, there's a risk that they will double down on the mistake by making moves to shut down 5e as we currently have it by forcing changes through D&D Beyond and other channels, making people go from apathetic to upset.

It's already been annoying to have to deal with "No, select the Legacy Goliath option on D&D Beyond, not the Mordenkainen's version" with some of my players. Adding "Also don't pick the 5.5e version" and potentially having some people with/without different versions makes it worse. Do the original Cleric features get shoved into a "Optional Class Features" sub-tab?

They have walked themselves into the middle of a waist-high mud puddle. No matter what they do, it's going to be messy.

And if they didn't, it would be the same. At some point you need to refocus the game. Reduce the clutter. Fix the holes and.
At some point it is just damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So you need to make the best of it.

And on top, it is the 50th birthday. When is a better time to rerelease it?
 

Micah Sweet

Legend
And if they didn't, it would be the same. At some point you need to refocus the game. Reduce the clutter. Fix the holes and.
At some point it is just damned if you do, damned if you don't.
So you need to make the best of it.

And on top, it is the 50th birthday. When is a better time to rerelease it?
The 50th anniversary would be a GREAT time for a new version of D&D, designed to appeal to the people they want to give them money and including a setting that expresses the values of 2022 that are all-important in salable media nowadays. What we're getting is weak tea, a half-measure that barely moves the innovation needle, and is inoffensive enough that most folks will still sign on. At the same time, enough has changed that fans of 5e as it is and previous editions may drop off the bandwagon altogether, which WotC is fine with since they're officially too small a demographic to matter now.
 

FitzTheRuke

Legend
We'll just keep going with whatever we're playing at the time. If players want to rebuild their characters using '24 book rules, that'll be fine with everyone. If they don't, that'll be fine too. Whoever's DMing at the time can pick what they do from their side of the screen. (So to speak - none of us use screens).
 

The 50th anniversary would be a GREAT time for a new version of D&D, designed to appeal to the people they want to give them money and including a setting that expresses the values of 2022 that are all-important in salable media nowadays. What we're getting is weak tea, a half-measure that barely moves the innovation needle, and is inoffensive enough that most folks will still sign on. At the same time, enough has changed that fans of 5e as it is and previous editions may drop off the bandwagon altogether, which WotC is fine with since they're officially too small a demographic to matter now.

No, you are mistaken. You might think of 6e, some people speak about. That is not what they are giving us though.
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
My Drakkenheim campaign (look up dungeons of drakkenheim, I highly recommend it!) has at least a year left in it, so I'm definitely waiting until that is finished at the least.

After that... I don't know, we'll see!
I started playing in a Drakkenheim game pretty recently. Enjoying it so far. :)
 

jgsugden

Legend
I don't let edition dictate story to me. I run what I run, and when the dition page turns, I turn with it and just adapt the game. Usually I insert a superficial story element to explain any changes (from 3E to 4E a player made a Wish, and it had unexpected consequences), but I do not plan my campaign storylines around the real world edition changes.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I don't run just one game - each campaign is chosen separately. So, I'm running Wild Beyond the Witchlight right now. After that, who knows? Maybe Deadlands: Lost Colony. Maybe Spirit of the Century. Maybe something else.

I might come around to another WotC game before the edition switch, maybe not.
 



CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
...it's supposed to end? I've been playing it wrong this entire time, and nobody told me?

We just started a new 5E campaign. If it's anything like the previous one, it'll run for about 2 years and take the characters all the way from 1st level to 20th. Then it will be someone else's turn to be the DM, and I think he's working on a Call of Cthulhu campaign. After his CoC game wraps up, probably in about a year or two, another player will rotate into the DM chair, and he's been talking about running a sci-fi campaign (maybe Esper Genesis or maybe Star Wars, he's not sure yet. When it's my turn again, sometime around Year 2028, I'll probably run another 5E campaign.
 
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Scribe

Legend
The idea struck me today actually. I've not been a Ravenloft guy really but I've been inspired by the forum on just how to write up my own little Domain.
 

I'm not planning any particular end, but my groups will need to make a decision whether, if we're mid-campaign come 2024, we convert to 6e then and there or wait until the campaign ends.

I lean towards converting, but considering the players will potentially have more work than I do as a result, I don't want to make a decision unilaterally.
 

Galandris

Foggy Bottom Campaign Setting Fan
I've already ended 5e for a campaign I recently started. In the last one, the players thwarted an effort to change Eberron's cosmogony by linking it a to a whole different set of planes than the usual ones. They, wisely, restored the original ones, based on a Giant device used to unlink Dal Quor. They ended at level 17... it was great. They were very happy of saving the world. In the recap, though, I reminded them that while they, indeed, had talked a few things about the necessity to take care of breaking the link to Xoriat... they had absolutely forgotten about it in the last 5 sessions and, indeed, linked it in the state the giants had left the device. So, Plane of Madness it is.

So the current campaign occurs a few years later, in a world changed in subtle way by the link to the Realm of Madness. Great works of arts have been created, but also a few problem sprang. The world isn't really the same. Which we reflected by switching to Mythras rules (porting the dragonmark powers to it) as a group of dragonmarked heroes assemble to... fix that strange feeling of off-ness they have deep inside them.

It is possible it will last far after 2024, so maybe I won't run 5e ever again, just playing in it.
 

el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
It is all D&D to me. . . so I'll continue to run it like I want, making use of rules and assumptions from all the editions as it works for my table at any given time. 5.5 or 6e or One D&D (or whatever you want to call it) is just more grist for my mill. 🤷‍♂️
 

Clint_L

Hero
Every time a new edition is announced...
A new edition has not been announced. In fact, WotC started the announcement by emphatically stating that they are NOT doing editions any longer, and that it will just be "D&D," based on the 5e rules with incremental change over time. You will still be able to use all your 5e materials because it will still be 5e, in effect.

So I haven't thought about switching anything over because I don't need to. Any more than I worried about wrapping things up in preparation for Tasha's, etc.

Edit: honestly, a lot of these responses indicate that people either are not actually watching/reading WotC's releases, or just refuse to accept their words.
 

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