Help a poor monk get Divine Grace!

[Nifft]

Nope, you're thinking of the Prestige Paladin from Unearthed Arcana. That wouldn't work either as you need to be able to turn undead and cast protection from evil to qualify. That generally means a level of cleric, and we'll be back to multiclassing penalties again.

Actually, I don't have either book -- I'm just assuming that WotC published one recently, because everyone is required by law to publish an original Paladin-as-PrC at least once eacy 7 years.

Anyway, Call of Duty has a Paladin PrC that would make you happy... go pick it up. Here are the requirements:

Requirements
Alignment: Lawful good
Base attack bonus: +5 or higher
Special: You may not take this prestige class on a whim. You must earn it by roleplaying like a paladin. To become a prestige paladin, you must first possess the Call of Duty feat (see boxed text) while advancing one full character level. This feat is no longer need upon becoming a paladin, and is discarded. The DM may require you to go on a special quest during this time, or to join an order of paladins as a squire or initiate member. For example, Daren is a lawful good 7th level fighter. The player wants Daren to become a prestige paladin and the DM agrees, so he takes the Call of Duty feat at no cost, and Daren is called. Daren lives according to the paladin's Code for several months while traveling across the land and fighting evil. He also joins the Brothers of Kandar paladin order as an initiate member. Upon advancing to 9th character level, he has retained the Call of Duty feat over one full character level (8th level) and becomes a fighter 8/ paladin 1.

-- N

 

[Thanee]

Contemplative with Mysticism domain would be the easiest (low requirements as well, since the monk already has knowledge: religion as a class skill).

Bye
Thanee

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Of course, your "hideous multiclass penalty" is only 20% - as low as they come.

You can do it as a Lawful Evil Monk 19 / Blackguard 2 - Dark Blessing gives the same benefit as Divine Grace.

-Hyp.

20% is still more than I want to pay for the rest of my character's adventuring career, though. Oh, and the party's either Good or Neutral, and no evil characters allowed. Good idea, though.

Hrm. Contemplative. That might work, though it doesn't say a Contemplative can go back into monk. However, I can kind of wiggle it in there with the DM; "That was his navel-gazing phase as a monk, you know."

Any ideas on what a variant monk could give up for Divine Grace?

Thanks, guys!

Brad

 

[Hypersmurf]

Hrm. Contemplative. That might work, though it doesn't say a Contemplative can go back into monk. However, I can kind of wiggle it in there with the DM; "That was his navel-gazing phase as a monk, you know."

Don't go back into Monk. Take the Contemplative level last.

You were looking at Brb1/Pal2/Mnk19. Swap it for Brb1/Mnk20/Cnt1. You've finished Monk, so what does it matter that you've multiclassed out?

Or are you hoping to take Epic Monk levels?

You're going to be hard-pressed to find a PrC you can take with one level of barbarian and a couple of racial hit dice that grants Divine Grace...

-Hyp.

 

[James McMurray]

Definitely stop advancing in Monk. Monk levels beyond 20 aren't worth it, as all they give are very slow increases in speed and AC, plus a bonus feat every 4 or 5 levels. Initiate of Pristis Sophi mkes agood class for a monk to move into. Why are you going Bbn 1 / Monk x? When you stop being chaotic you can no longer rage, and the +10' to speed is kind of a waste.

Psion and Psychic Warrior make good classes to multi with monk. April will see some major changes happening in psionics, but if your group allows it I'd definitely check it out. Monks with touch attacks are nice.

 

[Endur]

I would just go pure-monk and negotiate to trade an ability for divine grace. Not sure which one. Maybe a feat or two?

 

[James McMurray]

Divine grace is easily worth two feats, probably 3-4.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Definitely stop advancing in Monk. Monk levels beyond 20 aren't worth it, as all they give are very slow increases in speed and AC, plus a bonus feat every 4 or 5 levels. Initiate of Pristis Sophi mkes agood class for a monk to move into. Why are you going Bbn 1 / Monk x? When you stop being chaotic you can no longer rage, and the +10' to speed is kind of a waste.

Psion and Psychic Warrior make good classes to multi with monk. April will see some major changes happening in psionics, but if your group allows it I'd definitely check it out. Monks with touch attacks are nice.

Hrm. I was kind of planning on entering Perfected One (from the Epic Dragon), and that doesn't require one to be a monk...hrm...yes, sounds like a plan. Yeah, Epic Monk just isn't worth that much, compared to other stuff.

I had Barbarian initially to buff out the character's base attack so he could get into SoL, but that was two levels; I wanted to hold onto one for the fast movement, but I can probably dump that, maybe even for Tribal Protector (and grab that free feat), now that Half-Dragon Paragon's out and useful.

Psionics aren't allowed in the game at present, but I'll look into that for future use. It's a pity we're not gestalting so I can overlay psion onto monk, but I'm sure the DM would like to keep his hair and sanity mostly intact. Thanks, guys! I appreciate the help!

Brad