Help me build a trippin' shield-bashing dwarf fighter

Quartz

Hero
You can't use TWF for the build anyway: the off-hand weapon has to be light, and neither a heavy shield nor a flail qualifies. You want the Shield feats from PHB2 or use a light shield.

And Weapon Mastery is a very good feat to have.
 

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Kafkonia

First Post
Quartz said:
You can't use TWF for the build anyway: the off-hand weapon has to be light, and neither a heavy shield nor a flail qualifies.

You can TWF without a light weapon; you just get a smaller penalty when the offhand weapon is light.

SRD said:
Your penalties on attack rolls for fighting with two weapons are reduced. The penalty for your primary hand lessens by 2 and the one for your off hand lessens by 6.

In the Combat section, it provides a chart that lists both "with Two-Weapon Fighting Feat" and "with Two-Weapon Fighting Feat, offhand weapon is light."
 

VonRichthofen

First Post
Patryn of Elvenshae said:
Huh, what, now?

Why can't you use TWF with a non-light off-hand weapon?

Don't believe a word. Normally, you'll incur a -4/-4 penalty.

That's why I suggested Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting. (CV)

It allows for a one-handed weapon in your off-hand to be treated as a light weapon.
 

Darklone

Registered User
Another feat (better:two) to consider: Shieldmate in MiniHB and the upgrade. You grant your buddies around you a shield bonus as long as they don't have a shield by their own.

I'm not too sure if OTWF is worth it... 1 point of damage and 1 point of AC for one feat compared to using a light shield. Hmm, strong.

Probably it's because I don't like shieldfighting TWF. It makes me long for sundering Blackguards ;)

Don't forget Two weapon rend and Two weapon pounce.
 


Ok folks. What feats should I take at 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th? Please remember, my shield is my secondary weapon ...
So I'm thinking ...
1st -- Weapon Focus: Flail
1F-- Combat Expertise
2F -- Improved Trip
3rd -- Improved Shield Bash
4F -- Weapon Specialization: Flail
6th --
6F --
8F --
9th --
10F --
12th --
12F --

Any other trip attack feats?
And let's assume that I can't take two-weapon fighting, but have to stick with Agile Shield Fighter.
 

Darklone

Registered User
VonRichthofen said:
...don't forget the total number of feats available to a dwarf fighter 12! ;)
You already "freed" two feat slots with Weapon Focus and Specialisation Shield ;)

What about prestige classes? Dervish? Dwarven Defender?

I would move Weapon Focus to level 2 and start at level 1 with Imp Trip.

Then Shield Spec and Agile Shield fighter at level 6.

You want a spiked shield? Sad, Melee Weapon Mastery at level 8 with bludgeoning weapons would have been fine for additional damage with shield and flail...

Perhaps try to get a bashing shield instead.
 
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VonRichthofen

First Post
Dervish would call for Dodge and Mobility.

Apart from that, it's for slashing weapons only.

But that's all moot anyway since it doesn't allow for the AC bonus and dervish dance to work while wearing armor heavier than light and/or bearing a shield.


Dwarven Defender needs you to take Dodge, Endurance & Toughness first.
 


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