Here's The Cover Of The Explorer's Guide to Wildemount; Plus It's #15 In Amazon Bestsellers!

While Amazon may have revealed the title and description of The Explorer's Guide to Wildemount earlier, it had no cover art. Barnes & Noble, on the other hand, has the cover but at the time of writing no title or description. Here it is!

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The official announcement should be coming later today. In the meantime, the book - which has not yet been announced! - is already #15 in the bestsellers chart for all books on Amazon, based only on pre-orders. That's pretty astonishing for a book which 'officially' doesn't even exist yet (although the announcement is expected later today).

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Russ Morrissey

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Just so you are aware, their audience donated 11.4 million dollars to their kickstarter to produce 2 seasons of a cartoon for this setting. Their followers can and will spend money.

Not to mention the book is currently #1 in D&D and #3 in all books!
Not only that, but they funded a batch of other RPG kickstarters at the same time. When they kept blowing the top out of the goals for the cartoon, critters started suggesting other kickstarter projects that needed attention/support in the comments of CR's kickstarter, and CR's cast encouraged them in doing do. I don't know that we will ever know how much money critters poured into kickstarter projects during that time period because of the "overflow" affect.
And, of course, some critters DO pay to watch the show. If you want VOD access you either have to wait several days for Youtube access, or subscribe on Twitch. And I believe it is the case that only subscribers can actually comment during the stream: and the running comments/conversations is a significant part of the community.
 

Azzy

Cyclone Ranger
We can do without the dismissive insults.
Their stream is free. That doesn't translate into book sales 1:1.


Mark my words.

Free views on twitch and YouTube don't translate into book sales. This will come out, sell for a few weeks, and then disappear.

20-somethings may be the target audience. They also have no attention span to speak of. 50 and 60 year olds have been the glue holding the hobby together and have continued to buy product for decades. If they aren't interested in this book, it'll be long forgotten while fatbeards continue buying PDF versions of the original Greyhawk Folio for the next 10 years.
LOL. OK, boomer.
 

dave2008

Legend
Quite true.

I mean that I'm not interested in what WotC is publishing. During the middle of 2e's run, I was also rather uninterested in D&D.

But then I was probably more interested in what TSR was publishing during that time than I am now in what WotC is publishing with respect to D&D. Planescape was interesting, even if I had no interest in playing it, and at the time had a very low opinion of D&D as a system.
Thank you for the clarification!
 

dave2008

Legend
I'm betting not. We already know that not every player buys more than the core. We know that viewers are a percentage of players (and sooner of them don't play at all). Other than as a money grab, this book isn't serving the entire potential player base and potentially alienating grognards from all editions...
To clarify what I mean is that I bet there is as probably a larger percentage of overlap than just about any other pairing. I bet more critters will buy this product than if it was PF cross over for example. IDK, but so far the actual evidence we have suggest it is doing well. Anything you are providing is just speculation.
 

dave2008

Legend
My favorite part of this post is how it misses the fact that 50-60 year olds that have been playing for decades were once 20 something gamers
True, but he is implying that it won't have the staying power of products when he/she was a 20-30 something. Of course there is no evidence for that.
 

Beleriphon

Totally Awesome Pirate Brain
True, but he is implying that it won't have the staying power of products when he/she was a 20-30 something. Of course there is no evidence for that.
Because young people are stupid now.

I knew that Socrates guy and his writing would be the downfall of western civilization. Now nobody has to remember anything, they go find one of those new fangled whatcha-call-its.... scrolls. :mad:
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I don't think to many people will care long-term.
If people cared about Dark Sun for this long, they can care about this.

I said that I am not the target market for this book. But, my goddaughter, who I taught how to play and run her own game, and who loves CR, is in the target market. She gets to have her favorites when she's young, just like we did.
 

Demetrios1453

Adventurer
It’s tops out of all books on Amazon
But... but... people told us it would never sell! How could the wisdom of the internet ever be wrong?

(Glad to see it! I'm not particularly interested in this setting, although I'm reserving judgement either way until I can take a good look at it, I'm glad to see that others are and are putting their money where their mouth is. More money and more interest can only mean good things for WotC and the hobby as a whole!)
 

Zardnaar

Legend
If people cared about Dark Sun for this long, they can care about this.

I said that I am not the target market for this book. But, my goddaughter, who I taught how to play and run her own game, and who loves CR, is in the target market. She gets to have her favorites when she's young, just like we did.
Darksun was unique and different. My comment was based on Ravnica.

I'll probably pick it up eventually if there's some good player options but the cover doesn't really do it.

I didn't like the Eberron cover either but got the alt art one.

Anything first party D&D will do well on Amazon initially.
 
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Superchunk77

Explorer
Darksun was unique and different. My comment was based in Ravnica.

I'll probably pick it up eventually if there's some good player options but the cover doesn't really do it.

I didn't like the Eberron cover either but got the alt art one.

Anything first party D&D will do well on Amazon initially.
I agree with most of what you're saying. The original TSR settings will always have the nostalgia factor as being the original D&D settings to a lot of long time players and DM's. These new books are just not my thing. Ravnica, CR, Rick and Morty or Stranger Things (although I love R&M and ST shows). Dark Sun and Birthright are my bag.

The Eberron covers (all three of them) I didn't like at all. I even predicted that they'd change the first cover after the negativity it got online, and sure enough, they did. But it just goes to show you how much influence the online community has nowadays in this hobby.

Suffice it to say I will not be buying this book. Perhaps D&D has begun to outgrow me as I don't have any interest whatsoever in watching CR or any RPG stream for that matter. If that's the way this hobby is heading then I'll stick with the books I have now and spend my money on more Savage Worlds, Forbidden Lands and Shadow of the Demon Lord, and just convert the settings over.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Show me the Venn diagram of people who watch their show vs those who actually play vs those who buy more than the core books. It's not 11.4 million worth who will actually buy this book.
The book they published with green robin sold out in the first week of preorders and there was a second printing before the preorders went out.
 

dave2008

Legend
I agree with most of what you're saying. The original TSR settings will always have the nostalgia factor as being the original D&D settings to a lot of long time players and DM's.
I sometimes I think fans of old settings assume they were more popular than they really were. All real "statistical" information we have been given has shown they really were not that popular. Like me, over 50% of groups play homebrew settings. I started playing in the early - mid eighties and I have never played a game in an official D&D setting. In fact, there is some suggestion that the multitude of settings was the cause for the fall of TSR. To stay alive D&D has to provide for new players, not just old ones.
 

Henry

Autoexreginated
Three stars, mate!
Their stream is free. That doesn't translate into book sales 1:1.


Mark my words.

Free views on twitch and YouTube don't translate into book sales. This will come out, sell for a few weeks, and then disappear.

20-somethings may be the target audience. They also have no attention span to speak of. 50 and 60 year olds have been the glue holding the hobby together and have continued to buy product for decades. If they aren't interested in this book, it'll be long forgotten while fatbeards continue buying PDF versions of the original Greyhawk Folio for the next 10 years.
OH! You’re... serious?...😯

They made like 10 million dollars on a kickstarter in a month! They’re breaking sales records on a barely-announced book! Heck, I’m planning to buy a copy and I haven’t even preordered! I’m... not sure there‘s anything else to say.
 
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Ravenbrook

Explorer
Meanwhile in Europe:
Amazon UK: Explorer's Guide to Wildemount is #17 in Books.
However, it doesn't appear at all in the lists of Amazon France and Amazon Germany.
 

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