Holographic world!

[Femerus the Gnecro]

I know this involves goggles/gloves, but the closest thing I can think of is the scene in Snow Crash when Hiro is walking down the street with all sorts of equipment attached to his body, and simultaneously his avatar is walking down the street in cyberspace.

For cyberspace as a city like structure, then I think Snow Crash is the way to go.

-F

 

[tecnowraith]

I know this involves goggles/gloves, but the closest thing I can think of is the scene in Snow Crash when Hiro is walking down the street with all sorts of equipment attached to his body, and simultaneously his avatar is walking down the street in cyberspace.

For cyberspace as a city like structure, then I think Snow Crash is the way to go.

-F

This is close to what I am thinking about. But have to see.

Thanks Femerus

 

[tecnowraith]

I know this involves goggles/gloves, but the closest thing I can think of is the scene in Snow Crash when Hiro is walking down the street with all sorts of equipment attached to his body, and simultaneously his avatar is walking down the street in cyberspace.

For cyberspace as a city like structure, then I think Snow Crash is the way to go.

-F

Ok I am kinda confused by many of the essays and reviews describing the novel. How does one inter the Metaverse? Do they use a computer terminal or do they walk through a portal or door way of some kind? Or is the Metavesre coexists in the realworld?

 

[Nellisir]

OK, I'm officially confused by what you're looking for, and why you're looking for it. You seem to have a pretty good idea of what you want...why not just create it? Why this search for the Cybergrail?

Ok I am kinda confused by many of the essays and reviews describing the novel. How does one inter the Metaverse? Do they a computer terminal or do they walk through a portal or door way of some kind? Or is the Metavesre coexists in the realworld?

I just read this book last week!

The Metaverse is just like most other "cyberspace" imaginings, and considerably less sophisticated than many. Hiro interacts with the metaverse via a holographic projector/scanner that projects a visual depiction of the Metaverse into his eye, and scans the direction he's looking to give him the sense he's moving. He performs different actions by essentially chosing options from a menu via subconcious retinal cues -- in other words, goggles.

The "equipment" that Hiro wears later in the novel is to a) record information (which Hiro uploads to the great repository of knowledge, and earns a commission on anytime anyone looks up that knowledge), and b) maintain his link to the Metaverse while he's walking around (wireless).

Much of the technology (except the cybernetic dogs) is around today, albeit often in reduced form. Hiro's surveillance equipment actually seems considerably -less- advanced than what's available now, and the generic geometric structures of the Metaverse are reminiscent of Tron and movies of that era.

Cheers
Nell.

 

[tecnowraith]

To see if anyone else has done it. Plus to see how the writers explained the process of the technology.
The whole idea is while in the real world you can be walking down a street and if you need to serch for on the "net" you can access this net while still in the real but not needing any computer terminals. The progam just appear right next to you as an icon and you can interact with it.

 

[Nellisir]

If I reading this right, it seems like you're looking for a setting where "cyberspace" is visible and interactable at any point in the "real world".

Assuming cyberspace means an nonphysical place that can be perceived and interacted with, and that said place has rules of behavior different than those of the real world, I can think of two possibilities.


1) Everyone has a chip in their head. The chip monitors their physical activity and transmits cyerspace directly into their head via a cybernetic link to sensorary areas of their brain. Individuals can chose to be aware, unaware, or half-aware (overlay) of cyberspace. Motion in the real world is accomplished by real motion, motion in cyberspace is accomplished by thinking about motion. Hi-tech wireless lets everyone on the planet be tuned into cyberspace.

2) World-wide holographic projection. Every brick in every building, every tree, every thing has a projector in it. The projector illustrates cyberspace. People interact with cyberspace by moving -- sensors in the projectors read the movement and adjust cyberspace appropriately.
This version is somewhat clunky -- it relies on a very high level of tech, and the planet either has to be bald as a cueball or "cyberspace" has to cloak immoveable objects (rocks, trees, buildings) in immoveable representations, which sort of defeats the point.

Ultimately it comes down to how people interact with cyberspace. The point of it is that it's not the real world -- since people are by nature only attuned to the real world, how do they communicate with cyberspace?

A 3rd possibility is to assume a race of people genetically altered to "tune into" wireless frequencies; this is just option 1 with a wetware chip instead of a hardware chip.

Food for thought, I hope
Nell.

 

[Nellisir]

The whole idea is while in the real world you can be walking down a street and if you need to serch for on the "net" you can access this net while still in the real but not needing any computer terminals. The progam just appear right next to you as an icon and you can interact with it.

Given a likely progression of today's wireless technology, and the compression of technology, you could just assume a nanotech "glove" and "goggle", or a "glove" that masquerades as a bracelet, or shirt sleeve, or ring. The chip solution, but not quite as extreme. The devices would beam to a local wireless antenna with a range of a few blocks (this is current tech, btw -- particularly in cities. Broadband internet access is going wireless).

Cheers
Nell.

 

[Welverin]

As for the article on Holograms, it was complex. It had to to with the "infinite universe theory" and the ability to keep exanding while being under the same mass constraints - something which light can theoretically do. I'm not a physics major - so for the most part is was the kind of article that had me drooling on the pages and my mind drawing a complete blank.

Do you remember what it was in? Was it a scientific journal or a magazine?

 

[tecnowraith]

If I reading this right, it seems like you're looking for a setting where "cyberspace" is visible and interactable at any point in the "real world".

Assuming cyberspace means an nonphysical place that can be perceived and interacted with, and that said place has rules of behavior different than those of the real world, I can think of two possibilities.


1) Everyone has a chip in their head. The chip monitors their physical activity and transmits cyerspace directly into their head via a cybernetic link to sensorary areas of their brain. Individuals can chose to be aware, unaware, or half-aware (overlay) of cyberspace. Motion in the real world is accomplished by real motion, motion in cyberspace is accomplished by thinking about motion. Hi-tech wireless lets everyone on the planet be tuned into cyberspace.

2) World-wide holographic projection. Every brick in every building, every tree, every thing has a projector in it. The projector illustrates cyberspace. People interact with cyberspace by moving -- sensors in the projectors read the movement and adjust cyberspace appropriately.
This version is somewhat clunky -- it relies on a very high level of tech, and the planet either has to be bald as a cueball or "cyberspace" has to cloak immoveable objects (rocks, trees, buildings) in immoveable representations, which sort of defeats the point.

Ultimately it comes down to how people interact with cyberspace. The point of it is that it's not the real world -- since people are by nature only attuned to the real world, how do they communicate with cyberspace?

A 3rd possibility is to assume a race of people genetically altered to "tune into" wireless frequencies; this is just option 1 with a wetware chip instead of a hardware chip.

Food for thought, I hope
Nell.

Yes this is what I am thinking of. All these points is what I have thinking and for ome reason I have seen either of these ponits done somewhere before in comics, videogame or a novel.

 

[Umbran]

1) Everyone has a chip in their head....
2) World-wide holographic projection....
A 3rd possibility is to assume a race of people genetically altered to "tune into" wireless frequencies...

4)Each person carries a small projector on their person that puts holograms up in their immediate vicinity. No need to project onto the whole world, since each person can only interact with what's in arm's reach anyway...