Orcus Porkus
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Wall of Fog is level 6, doesn't work here
How to kill a blue dragon?
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Wall of Fog is level 6, doesn't work here
Orcus Porkus
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Forget any rope ideas please. The dragon bites it off as a minor action
Orcus Porkus
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Armore of Resistance (5 lightning) would come in handy
Orcus Porkus
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His speed on the ground is 8, flying 10.
If they try to hide in the bushes, he can still randomly blast the area non-stop.
They need to split up and hope for the best, trying to follow him and find the lair.
If they try to hide in the bushes, he can still randomly blast the area non-stop.
They need to split up and hope for the best, trying to follow him and find the lair.
sorry, forgot it was that high... ugh...
Well, how about a high wisdom wizard (dunno if any special orbs out there to assist) throwing a sleep spell at the dragon? with an 18 wisdom (not likely, but possibly) Could get a dragon to a 9 save on the going to sleep part hehe...
and if that does not pass the first time, does the "Veteran's" quality go on cloth? if not, hope the wizard can wear leather by now so he can get veteran's quality and spend an action point to regain his sleep and try again...
at a 45% chance of success, and trying twice... should come close to 100% or close enough it is worth trying...
if it does, the dragon would first take 10d10 damage from falling that far, then take a round worth of people whooping him, or at the very least climbing on and roping him hehe...
Orcus Porkus
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Definitely Sleep is an option. Range 20, burst 2. His will defense is 21, so let's assume it's a +7 Intelligence vs. Will (21). Could work.
Then he is slowed (no problem). Next round, if he fails a save (+5, minus 4 MAX from Orb implement max) he'll fall unconscious and come down. Even after the crash he'll remain unconscious (save ends).
Best bet so far...
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I'm not sure precisely what you are looking for as an answer - in general, some groups might be built with heavy ranged firepower and able to deal with the creature, while others won't be. In that case, they should seek cover to lure it lower - if there is no cover, and the DM goes out of his way to prevent creative solutions (such as letting it bite free of ropes with a minor action), then he is clearly just a bad DM, and out to kill the party.
But if a party does end up in an open field and has to fight him, then they have some options. Assume you only have one or two people suited to the fight - a ranger, maybe a wizard with long range spells. Others can still have some options. A rogue can use a crossbow at long range, or a longbow without proficiency (or with it, if elven). Any Str-based characters, such as Fighters and Warlords, and possibly Paladins and Clerics, can use Javelins at long range. Even a warlock can carry around a longbow and shoot for 20s.
If all the dragon does is blast them with Lightning Burst, then it is going to be a long, long fight - if they stay spread out so the dragon can only hit one target at a time, they fight is likely to go 40+ rounds. Depending on how well they keep alive their damage-dealers, depending on the dice rolls, I'd say it could go either way - the party has maybe a 50/50 shot of victory.
The key is, the dragon is doing just as piddling damage as the party. 1d6+4 damage a round? And the characters that will be the biggest threat to him - rangers, wizards, elven rogues - will be the hardest for him to hit... especially with a fighter who keeps marking him.
A party with a bow ranger, elven rogue, long-range wizard, strength fighter and strength cleric... is almost certain to win, in this environment.
A party with a halfling rogue, long-range wizard, strength fighter, wisdom cleric and warlock... is probably going to lose.
A party with a mix will have an even shot at it.
Now, if the dragon is willing to get close enough to use its breath weapon, the entire scenario changes. Its damage goes up significantly, cutting the party survival time down to 15-20 rounds. On the other hand, that means 1 in every 3 rounds, he has gotten within 10 squares of the party, which opens up many more powers for casters - potentially even ones that can bring him down to the ground where he can be cornered by a fighter.
Honestly, if the DM has removed all cover and prevented any creative solutions, than the party spreads out, takes out the ranged weapons every character should have bought back in town, and hopes for the best. That's basically all there is to it.
But if a party does end up in an open field and has to fight him, then they have some options. Assume you only have one or two people suited to the fight - a ranger, maybe a wizard with long range spells. Others can still have some options. A rogue can use a crossbow at long range, or a longbow without proficiency (or with it, if elven). Any Str-based characters, such as Fighters and Warlords, and possibly Paladins and Clerics, can use Javelins at long range. Even a warlock can carry around a longbow and shoot for 20s.
If all the dragon does is blast them with Lightning Burst, then it is going to be a long, long fight - if they stay spread out so the dragon can only hit one target at a time, they fight is likely to go 40+ rounds. Depending on how well they keep alive their damage-dealers, depending on the dice rolls, I'd say it could go either way - the party has maybe a 50/50 shot of victory.
The key is, the dragon is doing just as piddling damage as the party. 1d6+4 damage a round? And the characters that will be the biggest threat to him - rangers, wizards, elven rogues - will be the hardest for him to hit... especially with a fighter who keeps marking him.
A party with a bow ranger, elven rogue, long-range wizard, strength fighter and strength cleric... is almost certain to win, in this environment.
A party with a halfling rogue, long-range wizard, strength fighter, wisdom cleric and warlock... is probably going to lose.
A party with a mix will have an even shot at it.
Now, if the dragon is willing to get close enough to use its breath weapon, the entire scenario changes. Its damage goes up significantly, cutting the party survival time down to 15-20 rounds. On the other hand, that means 1 in every 3 rounds, he has gotten within 10 squares of the party, which opens up many more powers for casters - potentially even ones that can bring him down to the ground where he can be cornered by a fighter.
Honestly, if the DM has removed all cover and prevented any creative solutions, than the party spreads out, takes out the ranged weapons every character should have bought back in town, and hopes for the best. That's basically all there is to it.
frankthedm
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Math fail.
First cast: 45% of success
Second cast: 55% (chance of failure on first) * 45% = 24.75
Total Success Chance: 69.75%
Thats against a normal creature though, a dragon has +5 on their save throws.
First cast: 25%
Second cast: 75% * 25 = 18.75%
Total: 43.75%
Using Orb Mastering for the first cast makes it only a +1 bonus.
First cast: 40%
Second cast: 60% * 25% (Orb mastery only counts on the first try) = 15%
Total: 55%
Not exactly the best odds, but its something.
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