How welcome would a wordy and somewhat philosophical treatment of alignment be here? [Thread resolved, thank you.]

Big J Money

Explorer
I've been pondering alignment for a few weeks and I ended up writing a 9 page ontological essay. It's pretty valuable for my own use, so I'd like to share it, but 9 pages is awfully a lot for a forum post. I don't have a D&D or roleplaying blog because I don't write enough of this stuff and wouldn't be consistent in my posting.

Would anyone care to read it? Is such a long post doable here? Or is this probably a waste of a forum post?
 
I think any take on alignment is going to have more people disagree with it, nit-pick it, or "Actually..." it than agree but if you're fine with that I think it's worth posting. I will say that probably only a few people will initially read it, but if it spurs interesting debate or discussion, more will follow. I'd certainly want to see if it had any helpful insights.
 

Celebrim

Legend
Go for it. I wrote I think 5 pages just on Neutral Evil once, so 9 pages on all the alignments won't be excessive.

I suspect everyone who will be interested has already come up with some sort of description of the alignments that they are already happy with, so don't expect a lot of agreement but I do suspect some will read it and that you'll provoke the usual alignment arguments. If you're OK with that sort of unresolvable debate, then go for it.
 

jayoungr

Adventurer
Sure, go for it. My only suggestion is to break it up a bit. Make each page a separate post, or you could even make a thread for each alignment if that works better.
 

jasper

Rotten DM
I've been pondering alignment for a few weeks and I ended up writing a 9 page ontological essay. It's pretty valuable for my own use, so I'd like to share it, but 9 pages is awfully a lot for a forum post. I don't have a D&D or roleplaying blog because I don't write enough of this stuff and wouldn't be consistent in my posting.

Would anyone care to read it? Is such a long post doable here? Or is this probably a waste of a forum post?
Here hold on to these weights. Push. Gee that was a dry well. hope you are okay. Let me throw some napalm down to keep you warm while I go for help.
Please don't do it.
 

Seramus

Adventurer
It would be fun to read!

Just don't expect a revolution. Massive dissertations on alignment are fairly common. Some people have even done their Ph.D thesis on it. Share it because you enjoyed writing it.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
It is awesome to open with recognition that the piece is long.

In terms of effectiveness - you might want to see if it breaks naturally into smaller essays - a place like this works a lot like a conversation. You don't get great conversation by opening with a nine-page speech.
 

lowkey13

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
In terms of effectiveness - you might want to see if it breaks naturally into smaller essays - a place like this works a lot like a conversation. You don't get great conversation by opening with a nine-page speech.
Amen.

Where were you at last night's dinner party?
 

Oofta

Title? I don't need no stinkin' title.
I have my own version - not quite 9 pages but you can always post. Just don't expect everyone to agree, alignment has always been a bit nebulous and has different meanings to different people.
 

FaerieGodfather

Born in the Soul of Misery
Amen.

Where were you at last night's dinner party?
Sounds like he was avoiding your guest speaker.

And yeah, I'd totally welcome a nine-page dissertation on the alignment system, but I would also attack it mercilessly... and point out what should be obvious, that if you need more pages of apologia to justify the rules than the rules themselves contain, that in itself is proof the rules are bad.
 

Esker

Explorer
I'd definitely start reading it, and might even finish if I find it compelling. It's bound to be more fun than grading undergrads' papers (not a high bar). I'll respectfully disagree with @Umbran and say that I don't mind if you share it all at once rather than breaking it up; any discussion of what an alignment means has to be taken in the context of what other alignments mean, so it probably doesn't lend itself to posting about one at a time. That said, if you can structure it in a way that makes it easy to get the main points across (one key paragraph per page, say), all the better. Better as a link or a "resource" than dumping nine pages directly into a forum post, though.
 
I think it would be better if you summarise the key points, around one paragraph per alignment. That would be about the maximum reasonable length for a message board post.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
and point out what should be obvious, that if you need more pages of apologia to justify the rules than the rules themselves contain, that in itself is proof the rules are bad.
That would first require laying out which rules. In 5e, for example, alignment has no mechanical impact whatsoever.
 

ccs

39th lv DM
Nine pages. One for each alignment?

Post away.
Afterall, there's dozens of pages arguing over how people are arguing over why/why not you need a class for every aspect imaginable....
It's gotta be more interesting than that.

I may or my not read i though. And if i do i doubt it'll change how alignment works in my groups.
 

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