I hate Christmas

[Infiniti2000]

I know. I responded in that manner because...

My bad. I failed my Sense Sarcasm check.

Just for the record, I couldn't care less where people donate money, in my name or not, as long as it's from a pre-determined list I made up. Then, if it's not from that list, you're being rude and selfish.

 

[buzzard]

What is this? Clever, I think not.

I guess you don't much appreciate the analogy. Oh well.

This debate appears to be impervious to reason anyway.

buzzard

 

[buzzard]

I know. I responded in that manner because:

a) I was being funny.

b) If a donation was made in my name as a gift, I would appreciate the gesture.

c) I don't oppose other people's view on guns (I just don't like them personally).

(not multiple choice, all of the above applies)

Well I already got my five volunteers, but just to address concerns, the donation is to the NRA Foundation which is there to promote gun safety.

Because of such efforts the gun accident rate has been dropping for years. I imagine that whether or not one likes the evil boom sticks or not, one should appreciate gun safety.

buzzard

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

I guess you don't much appreciate the analogy. Oh well.

This debate appears to be impervious to reason anyway.

buzzard

I believe that the imperviousness to reason comes from both sides of the argument, so at least it is equal opportunity imperviousness.

 

[Crothian]

I guess you don't much appreciate the analogy. Oh well.

This debate appears to be impervious to reason anyway.

buzzard

The anology was missing the person getting the gift acting like SR.

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

Well I already got my five volunteers, but just to address concerns, the donation is to the NRA Foundation which is there to promote gun safety.

Because of such efforts the gun accident rate has been dropping for years. I imagine that whether or not one likes the evil boom sticks or not, one should appreciate gun safety.

buzzard

Yes, that is why I replied. Even being sarcastic and going for the cheap laugh, I replied knowing full well what the outcome may be. If I did not feel that way, I would have kept my post to myself.

 

[Ralts Bloodthorne]

The anology was missing the person getting the gift acting like SR.

That would be the NRA donating the money to the Forums Against Public Posting Foundation and then sending him a nasty letter describing what donations they really want.

 

[buzzard]

The anology was missing the person getting the gift acting like SR.

No I think that the analogy is quite valid since if someone gave a red cent to the Church of Scientology in my name I'd be pissed. I wouldn't care at all how much they think it would improve the world. I'd also suggest that there's enough empirical evidence that I would be correct as to make it a pretty unarguable reaction.

Now, I can certainly see why people have an issue with SR. His initial letter and defense are rather heavy with rough edges but I don't consider his point to be invalid. Giving people gifts they don't want when you know they don't want them consistently and persistently is obnoxious. Either:
A) He's misrepresenting the facts
B) His family is about as perceptive as bricks
C) His family wants to tick him off.

It certainly appears that he's tried the polite route to have them stop with the unwanted gifts. How is it in the spirit of Christmas to give someone something which you know will annoy them?

buzzard

 

[Crothian]

No I think that the analogy is quite valid since if someone gave a red cent to the Church of Scientology in my name I'd be pissed. I wouldn't care at all how much they think it would improve the world. I'd also suggest that there's enough empirical evidence that I would be correct as to make it a pretty unarguable reaction.

Right, that's your reaction. Mine is I don't care. So the anology works specifically for you but not for me, so it fails.

Now, I can certainly see why people have an issue with SR. His initial letter and defense are rather heavy with rough edges but I don't consider his point to be invalid. Giving people gifts they don't want when you know they don't want them consistently and persistently is obnoxious. Either:
A) He's misrepresenting the facts
B) His family is about as perceptive as bricks
C) His family wants to tick him off.

It certainly appears that he's tried the polite route to have them stop with the unwanted gifts. How is it in the spirit of Christmas to give someone something which you know will annoy them?

It's also his complete unwillingness to see what he's doing as anything but complete justified. I've gotten gifts I don't want berfore, I think everyone has. I do think its a bit over reaction on his part. Its just a gift.

 

[Ralts Bloodthorne]

How is it in the spirit of Christmas to give someone something which you know will annoy them?

That kind of depends on your family.

Several of my brothers, and my twin sister, and I all do it.

We buy each other's kids those big packs of playdoh. But only if they have carpets.
We buy tubs of LEGO's.
We buy drumsets.
We send each other music CD's or movies we know they can't stand.

The goal is, get the most annoying gift that can be opened in front of the family, and is still legal to send through the mail (Suprisingly enough, CO2 flour explosion packs, and bank dye packs, are NOT legal to send through the mail, and got you a $2500 fine before 11 Sept, they'd probably just shoot you now) and see who wins.

We have a fruitcake that gets shipped around that we found in my great grandmothers canning cellar. We figure it's probably 100 years old.

But, it depends on how you and your family get along.

My "Greatest Hits of Englebert Humperdink" CD that I got last year is going to be tough to top.