I m a girl get over it

[Truth Seeker]

Sarajaine"The Solar", welcome to the boards, *forgive the lateness, busy elsewhere*, second, as stated by others, the game is for everyone. I have pushed silently in my group, to have women players to join the game, and so far. It is working. The hang ups are from a lack of open minded experience in society. But give it time, people will come around, some...but not all. Which is better than nothing.

And HAPPY gaming!!!

 

[Sarajaine"The Solar"]

Oh, I missed this bit the first time around.

As a season ticket holder at Coventry City Football Club, I watch (association) football about every other week. I even have a few drinks beforehand, and sometimes afterwards aswell. However, I don't belch or leer (especially not at a bunch of blokes at a football match) and I am not a yob.

And I don't get how 'scratching' is an insult (which I assume from the tone of the rest of the sentance it is presumably meant to be): everybody scratches if they have an itch, don't they?

And guess what: A large chunk of the crowd at Highfield Road each game are female themselves. Leering yobs? Don't think so.



Quite.


glass.

I live in Middlesbrough and looking at a large majority of their fans thats exactly what you get

 

[Sarajaine"The Solar"]

Sarajaine"The Solar", welcome to the boards, *forgive the lateness, busy elsewhere*, second, as stated by others, the game is for everyone. I have pushed silently in my group, to have women players to join the game, and so far. It is working. The hang ups are from a lack of open minded experience in society. But give it time, people will come around, some...but not all. Which is better than nothing.

And HAPPY gaming!!!

thank you very much

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Actually, she isn't mentioning her looks, but her appearence. Not so much, look at how HOT I am, but I don't LOOK like the idea of a gamer chick.

This could just mean she wears skirts, dresses, has a hello kitty purse, etc...

Sterotype city ahead:

There is (wrongly) a percieved impression what a "Gamer Chick" looks like. It not the most flattering picture (of course niether is the "Gamer Guy" sterotype. Watch X-Play, G4, E! or any show on TV when the actually cover Gen Con, Orgins, E-3. While they tend to cover it from a "Here is the Forgotten Realms, lets see what Video Games are coming out for it this year!" They also walk around with a mic & talk to people men & women. You'll notice that the women fall into 2 categories "Booth Babe" and "Gamer Chick" Booth Babe being some model paid to hang out in skimpy clothing for the day. Gamer Chick being well, a female version of the male sterotype.

In effect, girls who aren't bookish, eyeglass wearing types shouldn't be gamers.

It isn't a good sterotype (heck, it ain't even remotely close to reality), but it is there.

So just because she kkeps refereing to her appearence doesn't mean she expects Playboy to give her a call, it probablly refers more to her mannerisms, dress, & other elemements more associated with "Style" than with Physical Appearence. Comliness vs Charisma if you will.

Hmmm, about a quarter of the female gamers I know fit the 'Gamer Girl' stereotype, most don't. The single 'Boothbabe' I know is also a gamer, though mind you it has been twenty years since either of us have been to a big con. She already had her own chainmail bikini. (Hi Gig! )

The Auld Grump

 

[Will Nelson]

I think for many guys, it is the fear that the girl will think they are a loser. Most guys (of my age) WILL lose "sexual credibility", and therefore be less of a man. It's the sad but honest truth, gaming is a turn-off to many, many girls. I'm glad you aren't one of them.

Gaming, in and of itself, is not a turn-off. You're using it as an excuse for yourself, no offense. If a girl knows you game, and you act like it's a big deal, something that will impact your sexual credibility, then it will. Not because of the gaming, but because you're acting like a twit.

If a girl finds out you game, and you non-chalantly pass it off as something you enjoy, you'll have more sexual credibility for being comfortable with who you are. That's an incredible turn on for girls, yet so few guys pull it off.

The same applies with hanging out with the guys, but in a much less sexual way. If you do something that's not manly, and then you clam up when someone brings it up, you're gonna get ripped on. But if you do that same thing and calmly pass it off as just being another part of your personality, then that's that. I, for example, could have a good conversation about clothing or interior decorating. Great skills when conversing with women, not so great with the guys. I don't go around initiating those conversations with guys, but if someone tries to bust on me for something like that, it doesn't bother me. Be a bit self-deprecating, laugh along, and then move on.

Some people just need to learn how to be more comfortable with who they are, whoever that might be.

 

[Sarajaine"The Solar"]

Actually, she isn't mentioning her looks, but her appearence. Not so much, look at how HOT I am, but I don't LOOK like the idea of a gamer chick.

This could just mean she wears skirts, dresses, has a hello kitty purse, etc...

THANK U! Its fair to say that was exactly my point. I don't look like a gamer chick and hate steriotype as much as the next person. I just feel that you would'nt get the "she likes RPG's vibe from me" that was it!

 

[Krieg]

hehe its amusing to me that the guys say im ranting but the female gamers on this thread have the same opinion as me

It is far more revealing to me that you use "the guys" as a blanket statement that clearly isn't true regarding the responses in this thread.

Most of the men in the thread have been nothing but supportive and yet you manage to lump everyone into a single group.

Your initial post was a rant, nothing more nothing less.

That doesn't make it a bad thing and certainly not a "female" thing. It also doesn't require a disengenous sexism defense.

 

[Umbran]

Because it boils down to principal.

If it boils down to principal, then do be careful - as Tom pointed out, your characterization of the drunken yelling yob at the football game is just as bad as the characterization of women not mixing with D&D. If you're really interested in principals, then you kind of have to do unto others as you want them to do unto you. If not, you're tossing bricks in the proverbial glass domicile.

The attitude people have about girls shouldn't play dnd makes people like me not want to really play at all. If they were open minded I would love too.

It is perhaps understandable that their minds aren't very open. Historically, women gamers have been rare. I think the WotC market research in 1999 saw barely a fifth of all gamers were women. For many years prior to that, it's expected that the proportion of women in the hobby was even smaller. That means that many (probably even most) groups didn't have a single woman in it. What you're asking them to do is be open to a possibility that may run against many years of personal experience as well as "common wisdom".

Not that "common wisdom" is frequently correct, but folks get their minds set.

 

[dungeon blaster]

You posted on a messageboard, be prepared for opinions that may offend you. The fact is, your looks really have nothing to do with your point, and I still believe my point is valid. I hope that the comments you took offense to did not obscure my main points, which had nothing to do with bragging or fishing for attention.

I'm not trying to make an enemy. Personally, I hope you find an awesome gaming group, as I believe EVERYONE has the right to game!

 

[John Morrow]

THANK U! Its fair to say that was exactly my point. I don't look like a gamer chick and hate steriotype as much as the next person.

Out of curiosity, what do you think a "gamer chick" look like? The women I've role-played with have been too diverse to stereotype. The men, on the other hand...