I want my Prestige classes

[megamania]

good place for you to hide from P-kittie's police

As you folks have said, it's his world, he can ruin it...I mean run it as he wishes. Guess I'll do Prestige classes through Story Hour and Killer in Kalidnay instead.


'course, now I'll be vengeful and play a kenderish 1/2 ling rogue sorcerer just to be spiteful

 

[megamania]

[Sigh.] Long ways away, then. I'm directly north of you, as far as one can go...

further than Burlington.....ouch. Ever play with the Quarter Staff group on Church Street?

 

[Terraism]

good place for you to hide from P-kittie's police

Actually, the P-kitty is a Montpelier native, so I don't really have much of an advantage up there...

[Edit] Yeah, I'm further up than Burlington - Swanton, six miles south of Canada. And, no, I've not played with the Quarterstaff group. I've been to the store a few times, but their hours seem to be pretty random, and it's only been open one out of five or six visits.

 

[megamania]

P-kitty is a vermonter...too rich....too rich

and Monpelier of all places, the only state capital without a Mcdonalds!

As far as Quarterstaff....most of the fun is Church street itself. August usaully has jazz shows which are awesome. Earth Prime Comics are okay but they need to organize it a bit. Place reminds me of home too much.

 

[Terraism]

P-kitty is a vermonter...too rich....too rich

and Monpelier of all places, the only state capital without a Mcdonalds!

As far as Quarterstaff....most of the fun is Church street itself. August usaully has jazz shows which are awesome. Earth Prime Comics are okay but they need to organize it a bit. Place reminds me of home too much.

Actually, they do have a McDonalds, now. They didn't six years ago, but they do now. As far as Church Street, I don't know. I was never a big fan, but that's just 'cause I liked the U-mall better. Probably because I could actually get there. Anyway, I think this thread has been sidetracked enough. We know return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Zhure]

I haven't heard of a single case of someone going with just core classes in the past few months, either in person or on messageboards.

I've never played a prestige class. In the 3e games I've been in, one player took (or was planning to take, I forget which) the Frenzied Berserker, one took Forsaker (and regretted it), one took Mage of the Order Arcane. That's three out of about thirty characters between the different groups. Of those PrC talked about, I was going to take Divine Oracle but the character died, one was going to take Akodo Champion but hasn't made it yet, and one is planning on getting Shiba Protector.

That's 3 out of 30, with a potential of being 6 out of 30. I believe our group(s) to be low, but I also think we're very creative and have no problem manipulating the core classes to what we want to achieve.

Greg

 

[Marius Delphus]

I'm in the middle of retooling a party of (now-)epic characters from a long-standing campaign (spending over 2M gp on magic items takes quite a while), and while I toyed with the idea of prestige classes, most of them have ended up prestige-class-less, and a couple are single-classed to boot. It surprised me; I like the idea behind prestige classes (reminds me, in a good way, of the evolving career of a Warhammer FRPG character), but these characters, in the main, just refused to take prestige classes.

So far, out of seven characters, it looks like the exceptions will be the wizard, who seems to "need" all five levels of archmage (FRCS), and the cleric, who might end up with a level or two of hierophant (FRCS). The character whose name I'm using, BTW, is the cleric character in question.

 

[Bagpuss]

Something I holding back on was the fact there are two players trying to get prestige classes and thus have not been allowed to even though they are role playing it and kissing butt of the DM and NPC's that could teach them.

NPC's have access to prestige classes but the players can't? Seems a little unfair.

]Originally posted by Hejdun
I haven't heard of a single case of someone going with just core classes in the past few months, either in person or on messageboards.

Weird, I'm sure I've mentioned that the party I DM for has a single class Cleric, a single class Sorcerer, a Ranger\Fighter, a Barbarian\Rogue and only one character with a Prestige class. Our Rogue\Fighter\Shaded Touched who started like that after his single class Druid died.

 

[Arnwyn]

Currently my GM is leery to allow prestige classes. Leery to the point of making it near impossible to do so. I find it annoying and in someways wrong. What do others think?

It's not wrong - your DM is perfectly within his rights to make prestige classes difficult (or "near impossible") to attain.

There's a reason why they're in the DMG, y'know - players do not have the god-given right to prestige classes! (Another poster made a good note as to why there are so many...)

However, what you can do is discuss (not argue) with the DM about why he is leery to allow prestige classes. And you didn't say that he banned them outright - so therefore all you have to do is go through exactly what he expects to get the prestige class. That probably includes a lot of RPing and working within the campaign world (along with getting the mechanical requirements) - as opposed to just grabbing an "uber-kewl prestige class because it rawks!".

Work *with* your DM, not against him - it's not that hard. If those other players who are trying to RP hard and "butt-kiss the NPCs" aren't doing so well, discuss what more you would have to do to succeed, and present a logical case about what you are trying to do, and why.

Edit: As a brief note, I *never* allow a player who comes in at a higher level to start with a prestige class. IME, this has led directly to some gawd-awful characters with the personality of bricks - but who can "kick-butt"!

 

[Sniktch]

Hey, I like prestige classes and allow them in my games, but I quite often go 'straight' in one base class or another when I play. I'm currently playing a level 16 sorcerer. In the games I am running I have:

Group 1:
a level 13 druid
a level 13 wizard
a halfling arcane trickster (ftr/rog/wiz)
a monk/spellfire channeler (he's a special case, though - he'd be straight monk if I hadn't talked him into the other to enhance the game's plot)
a human rgr/pal/cleric/order of chalice

Not a bad ratio IMO

My CotSQ game is at about the same ratio:
halfling brb/rog/shadowdancer
human wiz/clc/true necromancer
goblin wiz/alienist
deep gnome ftr
deep gnome rgr
drow clc (NPC, tho)
fey'ri sorcerer

I still see plenty of players in my games that want to go straight core classes, and even some who don't like to multiclass. There are benefits to staying in one class and not going into a pr class, IMHO.