If you had to cut two core races from your game....
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DragonLancer
Hero
Gnomes - they are the most unnessecary race in the core.
Half Orcs - When you have dwarves as tough fighters why do you need these?
If I HAD to cut two races, it would be these two.
Half Orcs - When you have dwarves as tough fighters why do you need these?
If I HAD to cut two races, it would be these two.
Arkham
First Post
I would cut halflings and half-elfs.
Half-elfs are just all-around boring.
And to make halflings interesting, you'd have to change their entire race anyway ( cannibal halflings, etc ) and might as well create a new race.
I like gnomes, and with they had ended up with favored class: Druids instead of Bards. They have better schtick protection as the nature protectors than as obnoxious trixters or illusionists.
Half-elfs are just all-around boring.
And to make halflings interesting, you'd have to change their entire race anyway ( cannibal halflings, etc ) and might as well create a new race.
I like gnomes, and with they had ended up with favored class: Druids instead of Bards. They have better schtick protection as the nature protectors than as obnoxious trixters or illusionists.
Immak Antunel
First Post
Halflings for reasons already mentioned.
Elves, because I can't even remember the last time a player of mine was willing to take the Con hit without having a whole lot more to show for it (e.g. by playing Drow). Casters need all the HP they can muster, and Archers (the other elf niche) just don't seem appealing to most gamers I know. The elf subrace with the +2 Int, -2 Str, in addition to the other adjustments, at least gets a boost to a casting ability score. Also, I hate trees and those that hug them
Elves, because I can't even remember the last time a player of mine was willing to take the Con hit without having a whole lot more to show for it (e.g. by playing Drow). Casters need all the HP they can muster, and Archers (the other elf niche) just don't seem appealing to most gamers I know. The elf subrace with the +2 Int, -2 Str, in addition to the other adjustments, at least gets a boost to a casting ability score. Also, I hate trees and those that hug them
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
Gnomes and half-orcs. Half races simply suck both in flavor and mechanics, but both pale in my hatred of gnomes. HO got the nod over HE because they just seem so much more unlikely given the flavor text for Orcs.
Finster
First Post
I voted Gnome and Halfling, because they were the first to go, but I have cut most of the PHB races out of our homebrew. The only two on that list we still have are Humans and Dwarves (Dwarves are described different, but their stats are the same).
The other races have been refitted with different abilities and flavor text, or scrapped entirely to be replaced by others (Lizard men, and Goblinoid instead of Orc). Gnomes and Halflings had no place, and had to go. Oh, and the size issues made the decision easier.
The other races have been refitted with different abilities and flavor text, or scrapped entirely to be replaced by others (Lizard men, and Goblinoid instead of Orc). Gnomes and Halflings had no place, and had to go. Oh, and the size issues made the decision easier.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
There are no elves (or half-elves) or halflings in Midwood, and the campaign hasn't missed them a bit. No half-orcs, either, come to think of it.
jdrakeh
Front Range Warlock
I chose both "half" races, as they're not really a fundamental staple of any D&D settings, but a "Look at me, I'm different!" oddity that I could take or leave. I wish I'd had three choices, though -- Gnomes would have gotten the axe next as, in both AD&D and D&D 3x, they're the least utilized race it seems (both by players and designers). They had a run in BD&D, but I think that I can count the number of important NPC Gnomes I've seen in D&D products on two hands (and the number of PC Gnomes that I've seen on one).
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