D&D 4E I'm not gonna do 4E

[SeRiAlExPeRiMeNtS]

I'm ready – 4th edition me!

Here's hoping for:

-Designed around "per encounter" instead of this assumed "4 encounters a day" malarkey.
-A complete reworking of the antiquated, pseudo Vancian, Gygaxian magic system holdover.
-No more skill ranks.

Basically, a lot of the changes they made in Saga I wouldn't mind seeing come D&D's way, which in my campaign they already have.

Totaly agree with you, D&D saga editioin is a good way to go.

 

[Jedi_Solo]

As many have stated before:

I will be getting the core books. I have no doubt about that.

Anything beyond that will depend on a variety of things:

How much I like the system
What my group is playing
If I even have group I'm playing with
Available cash and time

Beyond buying enough books to have a full blown self play test of the system: I odn't know if I'll switch or not.

 

[GreatLemur]

Seriously, think about it folks. 4E warrants a HUGE change, like 3E was to 2E, right? Well what more can you do in 4E that will make it so vastly different and improved than 3E...without destroying its "sacred cows"?

Since when was destroying sacred cows a bad thing? Although, in all likelihood, they'll leave the cattle alone, and 4E will only be as big a change as 2E was.

That said, though, there are a lot of things in 3.5 that I'd like to see fixed, and I do like the kind of design thinking that Star Wars: Saga Edition is seems to be demonstrating. I'm not really expecting the really big changes that I've been wishing for, but I'm optimistic about D&D 4E, and I'm extremely likely to make the switch at my first opportunity.

The only thing likely to slow me down at all is if 4E doesn't have any kind of OGL eqivalent. The OGL has been the coolest thing in gaming, and if 4E doesn't have the same kind of third-party support that 3.x has had, it'll be a lot less interesting.

 

[Prince of Happiness]

I'll more than likely give it a pass. Outside of Expedition to Castle Greyhawk, I think I'm done with WOTC for a good long time.

 

[jdrakeh]

I probably will pick up 4e, regardless of how well it's designed, merely because I know that most other consumers will do the same. Gamers are like crows. They like shiny, new, things because they're shiny and new, not necessarily valuable. When the new edition hits, expect gamers to flock to it like crows. I for one plan on following them, as I learned my lesson last time 'round -- if you cling to what others aren't playing, you'll have nobody to play it with.

 

[Michael Silverbane]

In order for Wizards to get me to buy a 4th edition they will have to...

1. Print the books.
2. Advertise the release of the new edition.
3. Send the books to my FLGS.

And then I'll be all like, "SCORE!"

Later
silver

 

[MerricB]

I'm sure it will be. Easy compatibility between editions is bad for sales and the overall health of the product line. Wizards will want folks to want to buy new books, because the new ones are hopefully so darn cool.

I'm not so sure about that. Making the editions *too* different causes people to stop buying 4e altogether, which is also bad for the overall health of the product line.

If 4e is clearly superior to 3e, then it can work (see 2e->3e), but 3e is pretty well-liked to begin with...

Cheers!

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

I'll reserve judgment until it is actually announced, developed, and released.

But frankly, I have no complaints of significance about 3.5, so it would take something significantly better to get me to switch.

 

[hong]

Actually, the rules compendium announcement was the very things that made me go from on the fence to a staunch believer that 4e is coming and soon. It's the kind of thing that a company releases when they want to wrap up a system. Production cost is relatively low (no money spent on writers, developers, playtesters, etc, only a few editors), generally sells well (giving the company an influx of cash just before doing a large print run for the new editions), fills a slot in the produciton calender (so the line doesn't look "dead"), and it gives the players a sense of completeness (knowing the rules are not going to change anymore from this point forward and they can just refer to a single book instead of flipping through 5 books).

I'm might not going to buy 4e (plenty satisfied with 3.5, but we'll see). I'm definitely not going to buy any books of 4e if there's no OGL.

I'm reminded of how White Wolf made the Exalted 1E rulebook available as a free pdf, just months before Exalted 2E was announced....

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

Anyone else with me?

Not until YOU can accurately describe this 4th Edition you speak of, how it will play - differently or much the same - and how much it will cost. I wager that you don't know.

I still have no opinion on the value of 4E until I see it.