I'm ready for a new Star Wars RPG

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
That being said, it was a lot of great books with some cool deep lore, so I regret any of the ones I have. Just wish the game hadn't died without so much as an announcement.
 

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Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
I'd love to play a Star Wars RPG that didn't have stats, but instead used descriptors/feats/traits/whatever. So instead of representing how strong Wookies are with a numerical Strength score, they have a trait that lets them do really well on Strength-related tasks.

It would just be so nice to not worry about racial bonuses, debates about Halflings being as strong as Goliaths, or whatever.
 

damiller

Adventurer
I loved the basics of FFGs version of star wars, if I could find a lite version of the genesys system that did away with all the charts and extra stuff, but just kept the basic rolls, I'd play star wars with that system.
 

aramis erak

Legend
With all that being said, I'm ready for a new official Star Wars RPG. Edge studio has the license now, right? How long will that last?
I seem to recall something about 5 year terms... the beta hit in 2012... they had to have it a year before, but I think it was two, based upon Mongoose Matt's failed bid. so, from 2011, if I recall the term length correctly (my confidence on that is low - 30% or so), that would be 2016, and 2021 renewals, and that means 3 more years.

I've not heard of any new product, but they're still not meeting demand for new core reruns and new sourcebook reruns. If it were 4 year terms, 2011, 2015, 2019, 2023... or maybe 2010, '14, '18, '22 but we'd hear if they failed to renew so it would be 2026 or2027...
 


In 1984 we created SWARP ( star wars using MERP). Played loads.
Didn't care for any other version until we made one using Barbarians of Lemuria. It's fast and furious and fun ( unlike the other FFF game which is never not quite there).
 



Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
the 5 kids of 8-14 I've run FFG SW for had ZERO trouble with the game.

I wonder. I do the same with 5e, and they jump right in and play no problem, but the 10-and-unders don’t really comprehend all the choices they have.

Then again, maybe I’m just projecting. I have found that I don’t need or even like lots of rules and character options. Maybe I’m just using the kids as an excuse.

WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!?!?!?

(Sort of like the pro- racial ability modifier folks who claim they are only worried about the poor newbies who won’t understand that elves are graceful if they don’t get +2 Dex.)
 


timbannock

Adventurer
I loved the basics of FFGs version of star wars, if I could find a lite version of the genesys system that did away with all the charts and extra stuff, but just kept the basic rolls, I'd play star wars with that system.
My limited experience with FFG Star Wars was that if you replace most/all rule-referencing with just using the rulebooks from one of the Starter Sets, then it plays much better. Only go to the bigger books for character-facing specific traits. But overall, I just didn't stick with the game past a couple tries.

Funny thing about the "use Cortex Prime" argument is that it's "LEGO-like" structure allows you to build the game you need for the themes you want, so they could much more easily pull off the 3-rule books for different campaign types model, but they'd also feel a LOT more complete. Supplements would be more about adding new mods, character options (in the form of SFX particular to the mods), and then just loads and loads of lore, GMCs, and ship stats. Exactly what I wanted FFG SW to be, but wasn't, because fundamental aspects of the game for the campaign style I'd want to run were squirreled away in different rulebooks and supplements.
 

aramis erak

Legend
Maybe but I don't want anything 5 Ebased or funky die.

The D6 REUP version is pretty good/free. I would just POD that somewhere.
It's also an act of blatant palgiarism and copyright infringement; given the number of downloads, probably criminal level. No POD provider who is sane dares risk selling it, for Disney has many good lawyers.

And make no mistake - Disney owns the copyrights of WEG''s Star Wars d6, since they were done on a assignment of derivation basis - that is, in exchange for making derivative works, WEG gave up their own portion of the copyrights to Lucasfilm upon approval. When FFG asked to do a reprint of WEG 1E on its anniversary, they got permission from Disney.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
It's also an act of blatant palgiarism and copyright infringement; given the number of downloads, probably criminal level. No POD provider who is sane dares risk selling it, for Disney has many good lawyers.

And make no mistake - Disney owns the copyrights of WEG''s Star Wars d6, since they were done on a assignment of derivation basis - that is, in exchange for making derivative works, WEG gave up their own portion of the copyrights to Lucasfilm upon approval. When FFG asked to do a reprint of WEG 1E on its anniversary, they got permission from Disney.

It's fan based D6 has an OGL. They're not selling REUP.
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
It's also an act of blatant palgiarism and copyright infringement; given the number of downloads, probably criminal level. No POD provider who is sane dares risk selling it, for Disney has many good lawyers.

And make no mistake - Disney owns the copyrights of WEG''s Star Wars d6, since they were done on a assignment of derivation basis - that is, in exchange for making derivative works, WEG gave up their own portion of the copyrights to Lucasfilm upon approval. When FFG asked to do a reprint of WEG 1E on its anniversary, they got permission from Disney.
REUP isn't trying to be sold. That makes it a non-issue in my book.
 

aramis erak

Legend
It's fan based D6 has an OGL. They're not selling REUP.
the rules are not the issue - the Star Wars copyright is. The various copyrighted images and the designs for the specific Star Wars ships are under the copyright and the trademark of LFL, now a subsidiary of WEDCO (the actual Disney corporate layer).
 

Micah Sweet

Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
the rules are not the issue - the Star Wars copyright is. The various copyrighted images and the designs for the specific Star Wars ships are under the copyright and the trademark of LFL, now a subsidiary of WEDCO (the actual Disney corporate layer).
I still don't see your point. It's a good game. So's the 5e version of Star Wars, which is in the same boat. No one is trying to sell either game, so I see no reason not to play and enjoy it if it appeals to you.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
the rules are not the issue - the Star Wars copyright is. The various copyrighted images and the designs for the specific Star Wars ships are under the copyright and the trademark of LFL, now a subsidiary of WEDCO (the actual Disney corporate layer).

Lucasfilm been fairly generous with fan content.

Might explode your mind with the fan films on YouTube or mods for various games.

Lucasfilm has essentially said go for it don't monetize it though.

Eg one person raising money to make a fan film got told no.

That's where the line is with Lucasfilm. Go on YouTube and search Star Wars fan films. There's a lot. Quite a few good ones. Think they would be up if Disney said to youtube take em down?

I suggest you stop being an internet lawyer. D6 has an OGL.
 
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Vael

Legend
Statements like this are funny to me because Star Wars is the one media property that D&Disms would actually work for.

Tons of weird races? Check.
Zero to hero? Check.
Niche protection? Check.
All or nothing wounds? Check.
One broken class? Double check.
Heck, my DnD campaigns skew more Star Wars-y, I've always said that my DnD taverns have a Mos Eisley cantina vibe. I like having Plasmoids and Thri-kreen and more exotic PCs as adventurers.
 


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