dcollins
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Improved Unarmed combat questions
That is not anywhere in the printed rules, errata, or FAQ.
Since the thread from 5/23 was erased, I will again summarize the argument:
- Yes, the Sage ruled in personal email that unarmed characters do not threaten an area, and cannot make AOO's. Such a ruling is in direct contradiction to the note on PH p. 128: "Disarm+ Grapple+ Trip an opponent+... + These attack forms substitute... even as an attack of opportunity."
- Aggemam's position is that the rules under the heading "Unarmed Attacks" on PH p. 140 (that they provoke AOO's) apply to all unarmed attack forms, and that by implication that means they do not threaten an area. I observe that neither is the implication warranted, nor is the section anything other than specific to "unarmed strikes", since it uses only the following language: "Striking for damage with punches... unarmed strike damage... an unarmed strike from a Medium-size character does 1d3 points of damage... unarmed strikes count as light weapons... you can specify that your unarmed strike will deal normal damage..."
Conclusion: Without contradicting the printed core rules, unarmed characters must normally threaten an area around themselves in all circumstances.
AGGEMAM said:Oh yes, if you're armed you actually threaten an area, if you're unarmed you don't.
That is not anywhere in the printed rules, errata, or FAQ.
Since the thread from 5/23 was erased, I will again summarize the argument:
- Yes, the Sage ruled in personal email that unarmed characters do not threaten an area, and cannot make AOO's. Such a ruling is in direct contradiction to the note on PH p. 128: "Disarm+ Grapple+ Trip an opponent+... + These attack forms substitute... even as an attack of opportunity."
- Aggemam's position is that the rules under the heading "Unarmed Attacks" on PH p. 140 (that they provoke AOO's) apply to all unarmed attack forms, and that by implication that means they do not threaten an area. I observe that neither is the implication warranted, nor is the section anything other than specific to "unarmed strikes", since it uses only the following language: "Striking for damage with punches... unarmed strike damage... an unarmed strike from a Medium-size character does 1d3 points of damage... unarmed strikes count as light weapons... you can specify that your unarmed strike will deal normal damage..."
Conclusion: Without contradicting the printed core rules, unarmed characters must normally threaten an area around themselves in all circumstances.