Is it just me or did stuff just change?

jdavis said:
Hey I'm joking everybody knows the googler valve is in a car's tailight ;)

I thought it needed the catalytic converter run through the dishwasher, hosed off, buried in 2 feet of peat, unburied, rinsed with citirc acid, ran though the dishwasher again, and the plugged back in.
 
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Looks like it's the WYSIWYG editor that's screwing up. I had the same thing as barssomcore not only in the quick reply but in the normal reply screen. Couldn't post until I changed the settings in my control panel.

For the record what's happening seems to be the reply box is blacking out and not letting you type a reply in it.
 

Hrm, thread killer is me I guess.

Anyway, is anyone else still having problems with Firebird. Because I am. When I try to use the enhanced toolbar I can't reply at all, using either quick reply or the normal reply screen. The text box shows up blacked out and thus I can't type a responce.

Using the standard toolbar I can't use any of the buttons on the toolbar. I click 'em and nothing happens. Kinda anoying. So what gives? I though everything was put back to normal.
 

The problem, A2Z, isn't that you're a threadkiller. It's just that you should be looking at the Detroit Gameday thread in General RPG Discussion instead of talking about Firebirds and Mozilla. What kind of crazy kaiju game would use those, anyway?
 

A2Z said:
Hrm, thread killer is me I guess.

Anyway, is anyone else still having problems with Firebird. Because I am. When I try to use the enhanced toolbar I can't reply at all, using either quick reply or the normal reply screen. The text box shows up blacked out and thus I can't type a responce.

Using the standard toolbar I can't use any of the buttons on the toolbar. I click 'em and nothing happens. Kinda anoying. So what gives? I though everything was put back to normal.

AFAIK there has never been a version of Firebird that handles javascript properly, and the reply screen is java based. In the PHP code that drives this site I've noticed numerous programmer notes complaining about how Mozillia manages to screw up even the simplest javascript routines.

If you're going to use any site with javascript I'd recommend getting a different browser.
 

Michael_Morris said:
AFAIK there has never been a version of Firebird that handles javascript properly, and the reply screen is java based. In the PHP code that drives this site I've noticed numerous programmer notes complaining about how Mozillia manages to screw up even the simplest javascript routines.

If you're going to use any site with javascript I'd recommend getting a different browser.
Well aren't you helpful. :rolleyes:

Anyway, everything worked fine until the changes. Other VB boards give me no problem whatsoever. I'm not saying it was the recent changes that messed it up. But it's a pretty big coincidence.

Joshua Dyal said:
The problem, A2Z, isn't that you're a threadkiller. It's just that you should be looking at the Detroit Gameday thread in General RPG Discussion instead of talking about Firebirds and Mozilla. What kind of crazy kaiju game would use those, anyway?
If you build it I will come. I may even bring some of the London folk with me.
 
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A2Z said:
Well aren't you helpful. :rolleyes:

Anyway, everything worked fine until the changes. Other VB boards give me no problem whatsoever. I'm not saying it was the recent changes that messed it up. But it's a pretty big coincidence.

If you build it I will come. I may even bring some of the London folk with me.

Currently the boards are running on their "factory settings" per se, so nothing I did should affect your setup now. In any event nothing I did would be able to affect the write screens.

It's sorta like working on a car y'know - you simply can't screw over the fuel pump when you're messing with the windshield wipers.
 

Well, you know, it's just plain weird because one day it was working just fine and the next, no sir, no how.

Maybe it's the browser. But I kinda doubt it. SOMETHING changed to cause the problem.

Now, if you just don't care because you're not going to bother trying to support every single frickin' browser on the planet, hey, that's fine with me. I can put up with a little javascript wackiness in order to avoid IE's pathetic CSS support.

But statements like "If you're going to use any site with javascript I'd recommend getting a different browser." are just plain silly. There is no be-all, end-all browser and there never will be, and every site admin has to decide which ones to support and which ones not to bother with. Better would be a statement like, "I'm not going to all the trouble of debugging this site in that browser so if you want it to work right, use a different one."

While I'm ranting on the subject, is there anywhere a list of the browsers and OS's ENWorld is tested on?

And please don't for a second think I don't appreciate how well-run these boards are. They are my favourite place on the Internet, and I know (believe me, I know) how much of a hassle it is to keep something like this running smoothly. You're doing a good job that is much-appreciated.

It's just big blanket statements put my back up, is all.

Oh, and I've been running software QA departments for about seven years, so statements like "I was working on component A, so nothing could have possibly changed in component B" is kind of like waving a red flag in front of me and saying, "Nyaa nyaa nyaa!"

That's equivalent to a developer saying, "I tested it on my machine and it works great, so I guess we're done with this feature now, right?" :D

And as a final disclaimer, when I post things like "This isn't working in such and such a configuration," it's not in the spirit of "You dummy, why can't you do anything right," but more "Thought you should know about this."
 

barsoomcore said:
Oh, and I've been running software QA departments for about seven years, so statements like "I was working on component A, so nothing could have possibly changed in component B" is kind of like waving a red flag in front of me and saying, "Nyaa nyaa nyaa!"

That's equivalent to a developer saying, "I tested it on my machine and it works great, so I guess we're done with this feature now, right?" :D

And as a final disclaimer, when I post things like "This isn't working in such and such a configuration," it's not in the spirit of "You dummy, why can't you do anything right," but more "Thought you should know about this."
Things were working fine with the boards before all these changes were made. Suddenly MM starts changing things and a whole load of problems crop up. Coincidence? Maybe, but it really doesn't seem likely.

And to top it off you don't seem to want to acknowledge the fact that it might have something to do with the changes being made. Comments like 'use a different browser' are not helpful in the least. If the changes can't be made without complicating things maybe they shouldn't be made at all?
 
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