Is "Justiciar" the new "Rogue?"

[Keenath]

The traditional pronunciation has the accent on the second syllable, "ju-STI-shee-ar", but I'd probably be fine with scootching the accent back to the first, to match with the modern pronunciation of "justice" -- "JUS-ti-shar". At least it sounds better than just-a-car. (It's reinterpreting the IA as a diphthong vowel instead of a syllabic break, but that's okay.)

 

[AZRogue]

So, do you guys pronounce drow like "cow" or "though"?

 

[billd91]

When you assume...

Seriously, where have you heard "blackguard" spoken aloud outside of a D&D game? I don't remember how and when I learned that the word was pronounced blaggard, but I did pick it up somewhere, and I do remember thinking the 3E designers were fools for not looking the term up in the dictionary first, but I hardly expect random gamers to know obscure, archaic terms -- especially boring archaic terms.

Where would you hear it? Pirate movies, maybe. Darby O'Gill and the Little People. Irish themed pubs in New York. English literature classes.

I don't think there's anything wrong with their use of the term. The scoundrel definition fits, even if it's not quite as menacing a tone as the prestige class was trying to capture.

 

[Felon]

Ah, okay, reading is extraordinarily rash and elitist. Gotcha. Thanks for setting me straight on that.

How do you posit that reading provides one with the proper pronunciations of words that you're not actually hearing? Are you reading pronunciation keys in your spare time?

And anything that isn't in the 400 word TV vocabulary is archaic.

Huzzah for ignorance!

OK, now that is decidedly elitist.

 

[Kishin]

Ah, okay, reading is extraordinarily rash and elitist. Gotcha. Thanks for setting me straight on that. And anything that isn't in the 400 word TV vocabulary is archaic.

Huzzah for ignorance!

It doesn't read as blaggard. I'm pretty sure you could poll the general populace, and it would almost overwhelmingly be skewed toward 'black-guard'. In a standard 21st century, how many times do you think the word blackguard occurs, and even when it occurs, is pronounced correctly?

Huzzah for people thinking they're much more erudite than they actually are, especially on a gaming messageboard where the hoi polloi are generally a rather well-read lot.

 

[Stogoe]

Where would you hear it? Pirate movies, maybe. Darby O'Gill and the Little People. Irish themed pubs in New York. English literature classes.

Yes, but when you hear them say 'blaggerd', how would you ever know it was 'really' spelled black guard?

 

[Xath]

Everyone has the right to disagree, but please keep it civil folks.

 

[Fifth Element]

[EDIT: For bonus points, without looking it up, "boatswain."]

Bosun.

Surprised no one had bit at it yet.

 

[Brennin Magalus]

Exactly why it sounds better to my ear. A justicar sounds like a powerful personage. A justiciar sounds like...a dainty paper-pusher.

How about exchequers?

 

[HeinorNY]

How do you pronounce waterfall?

Wrfwl?