D&D 5E Is the sleep spell d&d 5e too powerful

[doctorbadwolf]

Ok but the rogue has to succeed his checks and the death screams could wake someone up

What death screams?

 

[Jasondd]

What death screams?

Slicing someone open

 

[Jasondd]

Yet good the rogue example is the best one I've heard

 

[Nebulous]

This is exactly my point, if there is no save he will use it most definitely (1st level spell, very low cost at high level). Imagine you are fighting a powerful NPC (human, no resistance) and he becomes moderately wounded, as a first level slot you could take him down (no save) and using a higher level slot (easy). Or else you need to always have you NPC'S have some sort of resistance or else, bye bye

What about a 1st level magic missile that can't miss to take down a mortally wounded NPC? Or easily bump it up to a higher slot for even more damage that can't be resisted.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Ok but the rogue has to succeed his checks and the death screams could wake someone up

Also, how would the rogue fail their checks? A rogue with expertise will have at least a +7 to Stealth at level 1. Most characters will have, at most, a sleeping passive perception of 9. The rogue succeeds on a roll of 3 or higher.

 

[Salthorae]

Yet good the rogue example is the best one I've heard

Really? A Half-orc barbarian dropping great axe on the party member's neck is not a good example? No death screams that way.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Slicing someone open

What are you talking about? Why would the rogue do that? No one trying to be stealthy about killing someone is gonna just disembowel their target.

A blade into the skull doesn’t allow any screaming.

 

[Jasondd]

...yes but at 1st level it's 3d4+3 and sleep is 5d8

 

[Jasondd]

Really? A Half-orc barbarian dropping great axe on the party member's neck is not a good example? No death screams that way.

The noise from your fellow companion as well as the sound of a great axe impact would make a pretty loud noise!

 

[Jasondd]

Also, how would the rogue fail their checks? A rogue with expertise will have at least a +7 to Stealth at level 1. Most characters will have, at most, a sleeping passive perception of 9. The rogue succeeds on a roll of 3 or higher.

Yes but killing your companion beside you might wake others up but not from magical sleep...