Just saw RotJ Spec. Ed. on DVD for the first time...

[Storm Raven]

I think the most important thing is simply that Luke's training never was completed, he ran out early and it caused all sorts of trouble.

Sort of. The screwey thing about that is that when Luke returned to complete his training in RotJ, Yoda said "you don't need any more training, you need to confront Vader". I'm sure Luke was thinking "then why did you try to stop me when I went to do that in the last movie?"

 

[mojo1701]

Sort of. The screwey thing about that is that when Luke returned to complete his training in RotJ, Yoda said "you don't need any more training, you need to confront Vader". I'm sure Luke was thinking "then why did you try to stop me when I went to do that in the last movie?"

Answer: "Shadows of the Empire."

 

[wingsandsword]

Answer: "Shadows of the Empire."

For those who have not read it: After the showdown at Bespin and his recovery aboard a medical frigate, Luke went back to Tatooine first, and returned to Obi-Wan's old hut, where he had left Luke a textbook of Jedi teachings, including the details of lightsaber construction. Building your own saber being a major trial of Knighthood. In the story, as things progress he learns to put Yoda's teachings into practical use, and ends up fighting a duel with a super assassin droid where he puts his full faith in the Force for the first time, and just lets it flow through him, which lets him win. Thus, by the time he returns to Yoda he's completed one of the main tests Yoda would put him through (building a saber) and now understands what Yoda was talking about in his teachings, having had a chance to put it to practical use.

Also, I always figured that Yoda and Obi-Wan urging Luke not to go was more a test of maturity, Luke being able to shrug off temptation to go into what is obviously a trap. Luke failed that test of maturity, but then had to go through another, even greater test of maturity when he was told the true nature of Darth Vader and had to deal with that.

 

[Orius]

Actually, the Star Wars films were non-union. Lucas was fined by the Director's Guild for not putting opening credits in front of Star Wars, and the guild demanded that Star Wars be re-cut with "proper" opening credits. Lucas refused, paid the fine, and quit the guild, leaving the union scene in Hollywood (and becoming rich enough to generally not worry about the unions).

Well, I stand corrected. Shows how much I care about how Hollywood does things.

 

[Orius]

Trivia Question (because I want to know):
Was Bobba Fett originally in the ANH Jabba scene? THe only raw footage of it I've scene is cropped and he's always on the edge of the screen.

Probably not, given that the character was originally introduced in the Star Wars Holiday Special.

 

[Klaus]

Fett is in the Jabba scene, standing around like a mook. That;s the reason why there was a Boba Fett action figure in one of the first Star Wars batches, even though he wasn't on the released movie.

"Star Wars Action Figures! Collect All 79!"

Yessir!

 

[Kai Lord]

Fett is in the Jabba scene, standing around like a mook. That;s the reason why there was a Boba Fett action figure in one of the first Star Wars batches, even though he wasn't on the released movie.

"Star Wars Action Figures! Collect All 79!"

Yessir!

Actually no, try and track down a copy of the old VHS tape "From Star Wars to Jedi." It has the original Jabba scene, sans the CGI Jabba. No Boba Fett. Lucas thought it would be cool to add him in 1997 so they filmed an ILM employee wearing the costume in front of a green screen and composited him in for the Special Edition.

The reason he was an action figure in 1978 was because he had just been designed for The Empire Strikes Back and was introduced in the Star Wars Holiday Special that same year.

 

[MaxKaladin]

Fett wasn't even originally available in the stores. I have distinct memories of being a little tyke and wanting a Boba Fett figure but the only way to get one was to send off so many "Proof of Purchase" clippings from other toys and then wait 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.