Keen Vorpal

[phillipjp]

Has this been ruled on before?

Can you have a Keen Vorpal weapon? (The obvious being Scimitar. )

 

[CRGreathouse]

Yes, though there's a popular house rule that the increased crit range from Improved Critical and keen don't allow for beheadings, just normal crits. I can't remember which designer suggested this...

 

[MythandLore]

'Sword of Kas' in the DMG is Keen Vorpal.

 

[Kraedin]

I think the Sage suggested the "nat crit range" house rule.

 

[phillipjp]

'Sword of Kas' in the DMG is Keen Vorpal.

"Sword of Kas"? Where is that in the DMG?

 

[Jairami]

It's in that pesky artifact section. Ya know, the one with the Eye of Vecna, Hand of Vecna, and the Sword that took the Eye and Hand of Vecna... Vecna, Vecna, Vecna...

 

[Caliber]

Off hand since Vorpal is +5 equivalent, isn't it impossible to add on any 'special' properties? I thought items were limited to 5 pluses worth of abilities and 5 vanilla pluses.

 

[ruleslawyer]

Nope. Magical weapons are limited to 1) no more than a +5 enhancement bonus to attack and damage AND 2) no more than +10 worth of special abilities (which, since the minimum enhancement bonus on a weapon must be +1, equates to a +1 weapon with +9 worth of special abilities). So a +4 keen vorpal scimitar, for example, is possible, as is a +1 keen flaming shocking holy vorpal scimitar.

 

[green slime]

Yeah right...

Just like in the old days, when there was no giving a weapon a bonus beyond +5...

Then there appeared a "Unearthed Arcana" which listed +6 Defender, amongst other things.

This false "limit" of +10 equivalence is one of the things going west in ELH.

The pattern is there, it is easy to see, and extrapolate. (+11 "bonus" weapon would "cost" 242000gp)

It is just a GOOD IDEA to keep a lid on things. I hope it stays at +5 enhancement. The other stuff can just get piled on, as far as I'm concerned.

Remember, it is up to the DM to give the players the 200+ days off from adventuring to make the +10 equivalent weapon...or leave it lying around the dragons hoard.

 

[MythandLore]

"Sword of Kas"? Where is that in the DMG?

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