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They have a first month free trial right nowI wouldn’t be surprised to see some deals etc to get people to join D&D beyond
They have a first month free trial right nowI wouldn’t be surprised to see some deals etc to get people to join D&D beyond
Kyle Brink made it quite clear: as long as there is a print market (and Amazon sales rankings shows the market is there), WotC will service it. More digital-print combo.deals seems likely, over time, but not replacement.I think WoTC will try and encourage people to move digital. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some deals etc to get people to join D&D beyond but I am equally certain they are not going to abandon print.
Makes sense especially with the movie about to drop. If I were then I might even offer 60 days free to get people hooked. But I am not on D&D Beyond and don’t have any plans to join. I am a print guy but I don’t have any issue with them drawing other people into D&D Beyond.They have a first month free trial right now
Not as far as compatibility is concernedNot to my mind. There's is more to 5e than the core math.
1e and 2e are very compatible. Are they the same game? Are they the same edition?Not as far as compatibility is concerned
Pretty much. D&D, AD&D and 2e were very compatible and modules were used interchangeably frequently. 2e is a cleaned up 1e, not something entirely new like 3e, 4e or 5e were. Calling it 2e was marketing, not an indication of significant differences.1e and 2e are very compatible. Are they the same game? Are they the same edition?
3.0 and 3.5 used the same math, and the classes were more similar to each other than 5e classes are 1D&D seemingly. They were still treated differently.Pretty much. D&D, AD&D and 2e were very compatible and modules were used interchangeably frequently. 2e is a cleaned up 1e, not something entirely new like 3e, 4e or 5e were. Calling it 2e was marketing, not an indication of significant differences.
1E and 2E were different Editions of the same game, same as 3E and 3.5, but 3E was essentially a different game from AD&D, and 4E from either. So those Editions were not the same game, reelly.1e and 2e are very compatible. Are they the same game? Are they the same edition?
3.5 was another Edition, but it was the same game so could nix freely with 3E: I know this because I learned D&D in a mixed 3E &3.5 environment where either and both went.3.0 and 3.5 used the same math, and the classes were more similar to each other than 5e classes are 1D&D seemingly. They were still treated differently.
So just like 5e and One D&D. Different edition, but same game?1E and 2E were different Editions of the same game, same as 3E and 3.5, but 3E was essentially a different game from AD&D, and 4E from either. So those Editions were not the same game, reelly.
3.5 was another Edition, but it was the same game so could nix freely with 3E: I know this because I learned D&D in a mixed 3E &3.5 environment where either and both went.
but they are pretty compatible, just like 1e and 2e. People treating things differently is not always based on reason3.0 and 3.5 used the same math, and the classes were more similar to each other than 5e classes are 1D&D seemingly. They were still treated differently.
Edition is meaningless when it is used mostly as a marketing term, as is done here, see 1e and 2e, 3e and 3.5. This time they try to not call it a new edition, last time they did, either way it is the same game it already was. I'd call it a revision, not an edition.So just like 5e and One D&D. Different edition, but same game?
In normal publishing terms, yes, different edition of the same game. But WotC poisoned the well on the term Edition so hard that they don't want to use it again, because they used it to mean "new game" rather than a rules revision of a unified game, as with the 7 Editions of Call of Cthulu.So just like 5e and One D&D. Different edition, but same game?
Maybe so, but this still seems like a much bigger change than any of CoC's editions have from each other.In normal publishing terms, yes, different edition of the same game. But WotC poisoned the well on the term Edition so hard that they don't want to use it again, because they used it to mean "new game" rather than a rules revision of a unified game, as with the 7 Editions of Call of Cthulu.
As I wrote "a close-enough" retro clone.Or jump off the WotC train and go with Black Flag, or Level Up, or any other version of 5e.
But smaller than 3E to 3.5, which I always experienced freely intermixed.Maybe so, but this still seems like a much bigger change than any of CoC's editions have from each other.
I'm not sure this is the point that should be made if trying to emphasize that Black Flag is objectively misleading as contrasted to WotC.WotC has directly stated that "OneD&D is 5e."
Then the FAQ needs new wording.Folks, I think this is just a case of misreading the FAQ.
1 - the current 5E Players Handbook, Monster Manual and DM's Guide will not continue to be in print once the new version, or edition, or whatever it is being called is released. The PDFs might remain available from WotC, or they may not.
2 - of course those 3 books will still be available in stores as long as their current stock remains, but they will be more and more difficult to buy over time, and eventually those hardcovers will be very tough to find
3 - Wizards seems to taking a more digital, subscription-based model. There is no indication that they will not still sell the books in physical format, but they are absolutely going more heavily with the digital, subscription-based model
The point of the FAQ is simply to say that the new Project Black Flag books will be produced in beautiful hard cover, as well as PDFs, and there will be no subscription-based model.
Messaging is a difficult game sometimes, but there is definitely no attempt to mislead in that FAQ, I promise![]()
It all depends on how you look at it. To me, it really seems like WotC has decided to stop producing 5e, and no longer has any interest in the population it was created for. It's a little sad, to be honest, even though I have other options. I used to get legitimately excited when WotC announced another book, and even that pales in comparison to what their predecessor released.My impression of this whole thing is that KP had a really strong reason to do black flag, and the community was really behind them. Then the reason evaporated with the creative commons move. Now they are trying to find a new narrative to keep people engaged.
I'm just sad that they are going for "You favourite game is going away!" instead off "we are trying to make a really good game and spiritual successor to 5e".
I very much disagree with this. The whole point of them stressing out that OD&D is not a new edition and is backwards compatible is because they are very much interested in keeping this massive consumer group.and no longer has any interest in the population it was created for.