D&D (2024) Kobold Press posts 2024 DMG Hit Piece

[Minigiant]

not sure I understand this sentence… 2024 has backwards compatible subclasses and people are buying it

I can see the sunk cost fallacy for why their progression stayed the same instead of being harmonized, but changing it would be the opposite of backwards compatible subclasses

I get the gist, but something is phrased wrong / missing a ‘not’

I mean WOTC stuck to the 2014 progression the same reason why KP made a copy of the 2024 game: the community asked for it.

However what the community would be better served by, hyped by, and ultimately prefer is a slightly new paradigm.

It's ONLY wanting to keep old stuff fueling sticking with the old

Its not like the OSR Movement who actually likes the OS.

The NS is just being... cheap.

 

[Parmandur]

I'd love it, but I'm not holding my breath. I get the feeling they're trending a bit in the direction of more generic toolkit/supplement books rather than Midgard-specific stuff now, anyway. Hell, their spokesperson here on ENWorld said at the start of the year that they were planning a lot of Midgard stuff in 2024, and we saw absolutely zip. Maybe TotV derailed that plan to later, or maybe they've just re-oriented their strategy, but fact of the matter is there was nothing. I'd have to go back and look at the kickstarters, but I believe their magic and magic item books (and probably their monster books) make significantly more money than the setting books anyway.

I thought there was some Midgard stuff in the Labyrinth metasetting, though I didn't look too closely at that.

 

[jerryrice4949]

I thought there was some Midgard stuff in the Labyrinth metasetting, though I didn't look too closely at that.

There was a some but I wouldn’t consider it a Midgard supplement in any meaningful way.

 

[Parmandur]

There was a some but I wouldn’t consider it a Midgard supplement in any meaningful way.

No, but thst would be an indication that they may have plans for it as part of the ToV metasetting.

 

[Maxperson]

I'm more than willing to be the one that drags down WOTC to bring EnPublishing up!

Level Up and your game go together like tacos and Tuesday.
The 2024 rules do to D&D what raisins and Rice-a-roni does to tacoes!!

Or you could fight really dirty.

"5.5e is so bad that it's the only thing that bacon can't make better."

 

[Maxperson]

Unlike the 2014 DMs Guide which entangles everything.

The 2024 DMs Guide presents the same content, but as discrete lego-like building blocks. If the DM wants to add something, no problem. Even more importantly, if the DM wants to remove something, there are no headaches. It lifts out clean. Done.

The 2024 DMs Guide makes Greyhawk the default setting for 2024. I was surprised to see Greyhawk be the default, not Forgotten Realms. But it is a solid choice. The original intention of the Greyhawk setting is for each DM to rework it according to the needs of each table. It is a great choice for default.

At the same time, 2024 makes it clear that one doesnt need to use Greyhawk. One can continue using Forgotten Realms, or one of the other many official settings including Strixhaven, Eberron, Planescape, etcetera. Because 2024 is so well presented as building blocks, the DMs Guide works well with any choice of setting − especially the homebrew settings that most DMs make from scratch.

Having been one of the 6 people to actually read the 5e DMG, I can tell you that it's not intertangled you can pull things out like lego bricks with no problem. Want a different or no religion? Do it. Want high magic, low magic or no magic? Do it. Want to play a Wuxia game? Do it.

From what I can tell having participated in several 5.5e threads, the 5.5e DMG does a better job at presenting the same options as the 5e DMG and has far, FAR better organization.

 

[Maxperson]

whatever happened to C7D20

He's living the dream in Vegas with R2D2 and C3P0.

 

[Retreater]

Congratulations to Kobold Press - this is the most I've seen ToV discussed on these boards in months.

 

[Cordwainer Fish]

Congratulations to Kobold Press - this is the most I've seen ToV discussed on these boards in months.

No such thing as bad publicity.

 

[Morrus]

No such thing as bad publicity.

Sadly, this is not and never has been true. The wrong publicity can do immense damage to your brand. Not in this case--it's a storm in a teacup--but we've all seen brands crash and burn.