Actually, I kind of like that. I only worry that most vampires the PCs are going to encounter aren't going to have that vulnerability. I'm sure it could work though, I like this idea as some kind of way to level up vamps.I have a better compromise zero sparkling, but vampires get to be in the sun when strong enough.
This was my first thought too, but I wonder how much what you're describing is what old schoolers think of clerics in the first place? So far we have seemed to agree that pact making warlocks should be up the whims of their pact--er? Yet, that is a lot of what I hear when people describe 1e and 2e play with a cleric - with all the duties and responsibilities of their god.I disagree with those who say that divine pacts shouldn't be an option. There is a difference between a worshiper and someone who simply makes a contract with a deity. I think the chosen in Forgotten Realms could be a type of Warlock.
This was my first thought too, but I wonder how much what you're describing is what old schoolers think of clerics in the first place? So far we have seemed to agree that pact making warlocks should be up the whims of their pact--er? Yet, that is a lot of what I hear when people describe 1e and 2e play with a cleric - with all the duties and responsibilities of their god.I disagree with those who say that divine pacts shouldn't be an option. There is a difference between a worshiper and someone who simply makes a contract with a deity. I think the chosen in Forgotten Realms could be a type of Warlock.
I think there is still room for pact making with gods, but more in a vestige/inhabiting your body kind of way as opposed to a "making a deal" way. I don't know, need more information to come up with something good.
I disagree with those who say that divine pacts shouldn't be an option. There is a difference between a worshiper and someone who simply makes a contract with a deity. I think the chosen in Forgotten Realms could be a type of Warlock.
I like the taking on aspects of your Vestige from the 3rd Ed Binder class.
LostSoul said:What I really want to see is the patron demanding something of the PC in order for the PC to have these powers.
Or, lifting a page from Monte Cook's Arcana Unearthed, make a Warlock type who works like the Oathsworn- or John Consantine from DC Comics. Such a variant would have major or minor pacts of limited duration with many entities.This was one of my favorite things about the 3e binder, and it's part of why the 4e vestige warlock never really hit that juice for me. The cool thing was that when you took on the vestige, that defined your powers and your traits. In order to replicate that mechanically, it would be like a warlock who, at the beginning of each day, could choose which pact they would be manifesting that particular day. "Oh, today I'm going to use the fey magic"/"Well, Monday calls for shadowy entities of death"/"Ah, a white dragon, I bet my devils will be useful in that battle!"
But I think that this makes the 3e binder better as a "classless system" character, honestly.