LEB Discussion Thread '10 Pt 2

[CaBaNa]

*headshaking* Wow, some of those really sting. Burst 5 becomes burst 1 some implement powers become weapon... Wonder what caused all that.

 

[Velmont]

Just a note that the latest update/errata/tweak/whatever the heck they're calling it these days is up for the Cleric.

http://wizards.com/dnd/files/CC_Cleric_Addendum.pdf

One that will affect most of our clerics here is that Consecrated Ground can't be moved now.

[BORED]Again...[/BORED]

 

[stonegod]

Other updates:
- April Updates for lots here. I think most is just think from the update articles, but there is a tweak to Thiefs (making Cunning Escape useful)

 

[Ozymandias79]

Good News! I have just listened to the official DnD podcast and they do say that the intent IS that pacific healer andbeatific healer should work together with the clerics healing word

 

[Walking Dad]

Good News! I have just listened to the official DnD podcast and they do say that the intent IS that pacific healer andbeatific healer should work together with the clerics healing word

That was about the only good thing in it...

 

[renau1g]

So, I don't believe we've discussed the general themes here from Dragon #399. There are 4 sets of generic themes (ex. Mercenary, Seer, Animal Master, & Ordained Priest are examples) for use in non-DS settings. Essentially you can an extra encounter power, which is moderately useful, a benefit at 5th level (which for most classes is a +2 to some skills, and then another benefit at 10th. There are 3 power swap powers available also for each theme.

We've temporarily put them on hold in L4W, what are [MENTION=36973]stonegod[/MENTION], [MENTION=82251]TwoHeadsBarking[/MENTION] and [MENTION=2011]KarinsDad[/MENTION] thoughts? I'm still unsure of them myself. On one hand I really like adding another encounter power, especially at the starting levels as it helps from only having at-wills for at least 1 more round. OTOH, it does introduce a bit of power creep and only those with DDI have access to them, so that's a bit of a strike IMO.

 

[renau1g]

Anyone?

 

[rb780nm]

I like the idea of themes - I don't think the power creep is sufficient to be a big deal

 

[twilsemail]

I'm a pretty big fan of the idea of themes. I don't know that the execution went all that well, but the newer ones have grown on me. I can certainly see Mal taking several of them.

I do think that a house rule or two would be necessary. In the least, Animal Master and Order Adept need touching up as they're on the far ends of the spectrum.

 

[stonegod]

I prefer the new mechanics over the old for LEB, but the main issue is that we don't have a way for those that do not have DDI to get access to them. Yes, folks w/ DDI may get more feats/etc/etc normally, but these are "close" to the powerlevel of someone who does not; themes add an extra encounter power and a few bonuses that someone w/o DDI access does not have. That would need to be addressed.

I like several of them, especially the less OP ones.