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[Psion]

I think Gary's bad reputation was due mostly to a smear job that TSR was pushing at the time

I think a bad rep, if it can be said to exist, does so because:
1) Of articles in the Dragon that exhibited a sort of my-way-or-the-highway attitude regarding playing variations of the rules.
2) Fans of Gygax who are a bit too strident in their defense. Now I agree that Gygax doesn't deserve everything thrown his direction (and have even stepped in myself when some goob of RPGnet says something blatantly vitriolic and innacurate), a small body of fans who see Gygax's words as law are extremely irritating.

Reviled might be a bit strong wording, I would agree, though. Most hardcore D&D players (IME) recognize Gygax as the inventor of their favorite passtime, even if they don't agree that the direction he would have taken the game would have been one that they would have stuck with for the long haul.

 

[diaglo]

Point of order: D&D was first published in 1973. Other games, even non-TSR RPGs, have been around since at least 1975 (Tunnels & Trolls from Flying Buffalo, En Garde from GDW). By 1980 there had been over 60 RPGs released.

Source: http://www.darkshire.org/~jhkim/rpg/encyclopedia/

several of the dates are wrong in that source article.

 

[Particle_Man]

It's his real name. Let's leave it be, please.

No way! You are kidding me! That has got to be the most amazing coincidence! A person actually has "troll" in his name, AND he tends to post on the 'net in a way that can generate flamewars? (Note I did not say "intentionally") Wow.

In any case, if it is his real name, I apologize to Mr. Trollman. But I still take what he says with a grain of salt.

That reminds me of the Dave Letterman show special on Mr. Dick Assman (pronounced "Ausman").

 

[diaglo]

and to post on topic:

i'm still upset at Gary for pushing the Advanced game. but i have forgiven him a little. at least he isn't Lorraine.

why ruin a good thing.

we all know Original D&D (1974) is the only true game. All the other editions are just a poor imitation of the real thing.

 

[Storm Raven]

we all know Original D&D (1974) is the only true game. All the other editions are just a poor imitation of the real thing.

Just one question: do you ever tire of writing essentially the exact same post over and over?

 

[herald]

Is it me or is this beinging to sound line D&D: The Story Behind the Music? It's hard to keep creative people together. It happens, but often the have to go thier own dirrections. You can point your fingers and try to figure it out, but when it comes down to the end, all you will have are the stories that are somewhere between truth and fiction.

We could come up with a list of things that are good and bad about everyone in the mix and what they could have changed to keep themselves together, but in the long run I just don't think that it was meant to be.

My hat is off to all those who contributed.

 

[diaglo]

Just one question: do you ever tire of writing essentially the exact same post over and over?

No.

i love the game. and i'm not ashamed to admit it.

 

[Storm Raven]

No.

i love the game. and i'm not ashamed to admit it.

I just suppose that after years of basically no one agreeing with you on that point (that OD&D is the best and all other editions are just "poor imitations") you might find something new to say.

But, since you haven't, apparently you don't have much to say then.

 

[diaglo]

But, since you haven't, apparently you don't have much to say then.

i suppose with your head so far up your own....

you haven't read very many of my posts.

i say plenty. you are just fixated on one element.

 

[Storm Raven]

you haven't read very many of my posts.

i say plenty. you are just fixated on one element.

I've probably read most of them. You don't say much. At least not much other than "OD&D is great". It was a nice game, in 1974. In 2003, it is a pale precursor to better things.